I had one Pro 3 in the office that got the ‘something happened’ error whenever 
I tried to upgrade it initially.  To be honest, I can’t recall how we got past 
that one, but it’s been on Windows 10 for something like 8 months now, no 
problems.

I did run into an odd problem with my home Pro 3 where it stopped being able to 
apply some updates.  I fiddled with it a little, then just tried doing the Win 
10 upgrade again (from Win 10).  I figured, what the heck, worth a try.  
Somehow, that fixed it and haven’t had any problems with it since…

Aside from that, I haven’t run into anything similar to what you describe.

FWIW.

Frank

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Bourque Daniel
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 10:57 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: THREAD HIJACK! [NTSysADM] Windows 10 upgrades

Any problem with the Surface Pro 3?  After upgrading mine from 8.1 to 10, the 
WiFi connection just froze when in a new location, even one with a previously 
used SSID.  I cannot open the Wifi connection screen and have to reboot once or 
twice to be able to connect to a new SSID or reconnect to a previously use one… 
 Was working ok under 8.1

PS: Just thinking, most of the time, the Surface Pro was in sleep mode when 
reactivated



De : [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Frank Ress
Envoyé : 27 mai 2016 11:13
À : [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Objet : RE: THREAD HIJACK! [NTSysADM] Windows 10 upgrades

We’ve completed nearly 200 upgrades in our offices, including some Surface Pro 
3s (and I upgraded my personal SP3 as well).  Other than the Surfaces, all are 
Dell laptops and desktops, LOTS of different models, some as much as 6 years 
old or older.

I’d say 95%+ are pretty routine.  We put together about a 10-page how-to and 
encouraged our end-users to tackle it themselves, if they’re game.  That’s been 
both successful and a time-saver for us (2 IT staff trying to get as much done 
by July 29 as we can).

The non-routine have been a mixed bag.  Some required tracking down error codes 
from the infamous ‘Something happened’ windows.  Others rolled back after 
incomplete attempts.  I will say that we haven’t had the upgrade – ever, so far 
– leave a machine in a totally unusable state.  It either succeeds or rolls 
back reliably.  We have had one or two where we had to say ‘save nothing’ and 
reinstall after the upgrade.  But that’s decidedly the exception.  Most of the 
time, we upgrade, create a shortcut to IE on the taskbar, change a couple of 
defaults (browser and .pdf association), and our user is ready to roll.

Many Office, Visio, Project installs will want to re-activate after the 
upgrade.  Make sure you have your keys on hand (or be prepared to dig them out 
again) before the trial period expires.  Not necessary in all cases, but a word 
of caution.

You may find machines a bit wonky immediately afterward, updates will tend to 
help (and M$ has been improving the upgrade itself, so this is less noticeable 
now than shortly after the release last summer).  Some drivers may be 
problematic, and apparently video cards are one of the major problems in that 
regard.  You have a couple more months to do some homework if that concerns 
you, but remember that you can revert to 7 or 8, too, if need be.  I can’t 
offer too much perspective on the success of that, not something we’ve done.

The updates ARE more aggressive in Win 10, and while there are downsides to 
that, I’m in favor of it overall.  The majority of users really aren’t able to 
manage the details, and it’s probably better for M$ to do it for them.  If 
you’re in an Enterprise environment, you do have the ability to exercise more 
control, but we haven’t chosen to pursue that.  Also, be aware that actual 
Windows 10 upgrades will be released as updates (essentially a new release of 
10 applied to an existing 10), and if you’re not prepared, you could be in for 
more than the typical wait for a reboot.  The other complaint about the more 
aggressive upgrades is that they may occur at inconvenient times (like in the 
middle of your presentation).  I’d suggest checking for updates before you get 
into something time-critical (and I know that’s not something that should be 
taken likely).

Overall, I like this version of Windows (though I was good with 8.1, too – I 
thought the drama over that release was way overblown).  Last I heard, M$ was 
taking a $2-3B loss by giving this away to current Win 7 and 8 users.  Give ‘em 
some credit – they may be a bit aggressive trying to give even more away, but I 
think we should cut them some slack on that.  It really is a good thing, on 
balance.

HTH

Frank Ress (speaking for myself)
Manager, IT Operations
Gas Technology Institute

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Bartley
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:04 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: THREAD HIJACK! [NTSysADM] Windows 10 upgrades

I've done several at home and work. Most have gone well other than the time it 
takes. However, I have found Dell and Lenovo laptops can be a nightmare 
depending on the model. Particularly with the Wifi adapter. Another one that 
was upgraded periodically loses the ability for any browser to access the 
Internet. The browsers will still work on the Intranet. A reboot fixes it, but 
who wants to reboot every couple of days. Not as clean as all the upgrades I 
did for Win 7 originally. I also really don't like the changes to windows 
update in Win 10. As an IT professional, I really don't like being forced all 
updates that are available with no option to pick and choose based on issues 
and feedback.



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 09:39
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: THREAD HIJACK! [NTSysADM] Windows 10 upgrades

Had zero problems with in place upgrades.  Three of mine, and a fair number of 
friends and co-workers have had the same experience.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Raper
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: THREAD HIJACK! [NTSysADM] Windows 10 upgrades

Speaking of Win 10 upgrades…. I’ll preface this question by saying I am almost 
a luddite at home. If I didn’t have to feed my family, I would be a sailing 
instructor or lawnmower engine repair guy for a living….

How has it gone for all of you who have upgraded an existing build from say Win 
7 Pro to Win 10 in place? I know this is the preferred/supported path per 
Microsoft, but I have NEVER been a fan of in-place upgrades… (GET OFF MY 
LAWN!)….

I’ve got several Win 7 Pro systems at home that I disabled the win 10 
notifications, though I plan to upgrade them and was wondering just how much of 
a pain or success it has been. Yes, I know, Win 10 has 5,000 bazillion users 
now, but I’d like to hear from some fellow engineers….who have to be the Help 
Desk for their families….

Thanks!

Jonathan


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:09 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Windows 10 upgrades

I've successfully and happily upgraded my own systems to Windows 10 - but holy 
crap is this disgusting.  What a way to destroy any good will and trust.  As 
James pointed out, this is a great way to get people to completely disable 
updates again.

--
Espi


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Melvin Backus 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Given the folks on the list many of you may already know this but I just ran 
across this.  I’m guessing that’s exactly how all these “I told it no but it 
still upgraded” events are happening.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-upgrade-app-breaks-microsofts-own-guidelines/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=23118994024572394746988385873151


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404.497.1565<tel:404.497.1565>
Service Desk | 404-497-1599<tel:404-497-1599> | https://servicedesk.byers.com
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