Asidr from the Cisco, who has the best support? can i pick up the phone and get actual human being on the phone? As this will become the core , support is a big.factor.
From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:56:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 To: [email protected] HP's command set is similar to, but much simpler than Cisco's. The web interfaces I've found to be mildly useful. I found it easy to transition from Cisco to HP. Juniper's command set is a good deal different than Cisco's, and I like it more than I do Cisco's though it can be confusing until you get used to it. But the Juniper web site has a pretty cool Cisco-to-Juniper translator than can help, and the web interface, especially on the newest firmware, is pretty darn nice. Also, there are two display modes for command output on the Juniper - one of which is something like XML (the native interface, and I'm growing to like it), and another using "display set", which shows a more line-oriented output, more like Cisco's output. Ubiquiti's don't have a terribly good command line - it's just easier to use the web interface in most cases, and I haven't had much need for the CLI on it. Bang for buck, they're very nice. Kurt On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:28 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Im by no means a ccna, but i do know Cisco as I service business and that is all they use , i dont do the full configs as i just set them up, enable the port and web acces (where applicable ) and the "mother ship" takes over from there. Now ive never used Procurve , brocade, juniper , but if the cli.is the same or similar im willimg.to explore From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 To: [email protected] Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers? If not, then most anything will work. Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively inexperienced with switches? If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or Ubiquiti. If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity for the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or Ubiquiti. I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like Cisco or HP. Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else - they're otherwise fine switches. Kurt On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Currently flat, 60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers 8 AP's, about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip cameras A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic i site to site 4 physical servers, 2 of them hyperv (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers have 4 1 gb nics, primary internet is 100mb backup internet is 25mb about 20 concurrent remote users From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 To: [email protected] How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc? Kurt On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Got approval for new core, Im thinking Cisco or Procurve , givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb sfp uplink ports does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? TiA From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +0000 Core sort of implies layer 3. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 Hmm, hack, alternative , not words i feel comfy with when its a core switch - maybe I'll get them to buy something better From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 To: [email protected] Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your equipment. Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality. As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality. Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it. -- Espi On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd switch, or use the firewall https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 To: [email protected] Hi J-P, I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding your frustration correctly: If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see how this could work. DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to cross networks. I can only assume that this model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered managed switch. I saw a similarly themed question posted here: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749 -- Espi On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Anyone, Bueller, Jean-Paul Natola From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400 Hi all, I've been testing VLAN on a GS748tv5 I emphasize v5 as netgear tends to create different devices and only differentiate them by the version , as a matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or dhcp relay" options (yes I know, its old , and crappy anyway), So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 , added the firewall port and test pc port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 192.168.5.x on my 08r2 server, ) If I give the pc a static address (i.e 192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP server; https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe= which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82, still no joy- if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS switch Jean-Paul Natola
