Personally, if you need support, I'd just buy what you're familiar with, in this case Cisco. For others who are self supporting, Ubiquiti is decent, and Blade/IBM/Lenovo switches can be had on e-bay for super cheap for what you can get. I actually would think this would probably hold for vendor of choice.

I know I like getting G8052s for ~$400 and G8124s for ~$800.

James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University

On 08/24/2016 09:29 AM, J- P wrote:
Does anyone have a contact for Juniper, or do I buy from my regular
vendor (CDW/PCM etcc)






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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:29:16 +0000

Support from JTAC on the Juniper product line has been fantastic in my
experience.

    On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:12 PM, J- P <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Asidr from the Cisco, who has the best support?

    can i pick up the phone and get actual  human being on the phone? As
    this will become the core , support is a big.factor.

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    From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:56:35 -0700
    Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue
    Netgear GS748Tv5
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    HP's command set is similar to, but much simpler than Cisco's. The
    web interfaces I've found to be mildly useful. I found it easy to
    transition from Cisco to HP.

    Juniper's command set is a good deal different than Cisco's, and I
    like it more than I do Cisco's though it can be confusing until you
    get used to it. But the Juniper web site has a pretty cool
    Cisco-to-Juniper translator than can help, and the web interface,
    especially on the newest firmware, is pretty darn nice. Also, there
    are two display modes for command output on the Juniper - one of
    which is something like XML (the native interface, and I'm growing
    to like it), and another using "display set", which shows a more
    line-oriented output, more like Cisco's output.

    Ubiquiti's don't have a terribly good command line - it's just
    easier to use the web interface in most cases, and I haven't had
    much need for the CLI on it. Bang for buck, they're very nice.

    Kurt

    On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:28 PM, J- P <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Im by no means  a ccna, but i do know Cisco as I service
        business  and that is all they  use , i dont do the full
        configs  as i just set them up, enable the port and web acces
        (where applicable  ) and the "mother ship" takes over from there.

        Now ive never used Procurve , brocade, juniper ,   but if
        the cli.is <http://cli.is/> the same or similar im willimg.to
        <http://willimg.to/> explore

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        From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
        Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue
        Netgear GS748Tv5
        To: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>

        Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?

        If not, then most anything will work.

        Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are
        you well experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are
        you relatively inexperienced with switches?

        If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest
        either HP or Ubiquiti.

        If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane
        capacity for the various switches, and you might consider
        Juniper as well as HP or Ubiquiti.

        I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't
        much like Cisco or HP.

        Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than
        anything else - they're otherwise fine switches.

        Kurt

        On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Currently flat,
            60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
            8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be
            getting 12 ip cameras

            A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic

            i site  to site

            4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each
            ) both servers have 4 1 gb nics,

            primary internet is 100mb
            backup internet is 25mb

            about 20 concurrent  remote  users

            
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            From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
            Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp
            issue Netgear GS748Tv5
            To: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>

            How complex is the environment, how many staff are
            supported, how many VLANs, how much data moves across the
            LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

            Kurt

            On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Got approval  for new core,

                Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
                givem that all other switches are netgear and only have
                1gb  sfp uplink ports  does anyone have suggestions,
                opinions , reccomendations ?

                TiA

                
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                From: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                To: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
                Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +0000

                Core sort of implies layer 3.

                --
                There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
                         those who understand binary and those who don't.

                *From:* [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *J- P
                *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
                *To:* [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

                Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with
                when its a core switch  -

                maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
                
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                From: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
                Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
                To: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment
                situation like this, but I've seen it before. When
                planned for, its a way to spend less on your equipment.
                Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a
                situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing
                some expected functionality.

                As a last resort, I'd look into somehow
                hacking/activating the functionality.  Perhaps an
                alternate firmware can be forced on it.


                --
                Espi


                On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this
                    article i need either a 2nd switch, or use the firewall

                    
https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
                    
<https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN%27s-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html>
                    
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                    From: [email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>
                    Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
                    Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
                    To: [email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>
                    Hi J-P,

                    I didnt really see a question in your initial post,
                    but if I'm understanding your frustration correctly:
                     If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see how
                    this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and
                    needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can
                    only assume that this model is a lower-tiered option
                    that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered
                    managed switch.

                    I saw a similarly themed question posted here:

                    
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
                    
<https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749>



                    --
                    Espi


                    On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                        Anyone, Bueller,






                        Jean-Paul Natola



                        
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                        From: [email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        To: [email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
                        Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
                        Hi all,

                        I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I
                        emphasize v5  as netgear tends to create
                        different devices and only differentiate them by
                        the version ,  as a matter of fact this device
                        does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
                        options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),

                        So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP
                        192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall port
                        and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have
                        no option for ip-helper or DHCP relay, the PC
                        received no ip address (and yes, I did create
                        the DHCP scope 192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )

                        If I give the pc a static address (i.e
                        192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully ping
                        192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable
                        DHCP option 82 on the DHCP server;
                        https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
                        <https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=>

                        which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried
                        to manually create option 82, still no joy-

                        if anyone can share any thoughts it would be
                        greatly appreciated

                        and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no
                        Shell, no Terminal on this POS switch



                        Jean-Paul Natola




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