Good grief - normally a PoE switch costs more, not less.

I hope your VAR provides you with a whole lot of service and training to go
with that unit.

But I don't believe you'll lose any other funtionality besides the PoE.

Kurt

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:09 PM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> So I can get a juniper ex4300-48p   on newegg for 800 dollars less than
> the ex4300-48t from my vendor, both are new , both have the same specs ,
> except the POE obviously
>
>
> while I actually wont use the POE (because the heat it generates is way
> too much for the enclosed server cabinet), could there be any downside to
> getting this one?
>
>
>
>
>
> I just cant justify the extra $$$
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
> on behalf of Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:19 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
>
> Yep - I'd certainly prefer the EX4300. Press the vendor on their
> reasoning, or just go with another vendor.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:40 AM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > the vendor has come back with this recommendation
> > http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/
> ex-series/ex3300/
>
> <http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/ex-series/ex3300/>
> EX3300 Ethernet Switch – Juniper Networks
> <http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/ex-series/ex3300/>
> www.juniper.net
> EX3300 Support for converged data, voice, and video. The EX3300 Ethernet
> Switch is a compact, scalable solution for demanding converged enterprise
> access environments.
>
>
> >
> > this seems (based on the model number) inferior to the EX4300 Kurt
> > recommended,  and whats worse is that the vendor is asking 3000 USD ,
> heck,
> > Newegg has the ex4300 for less than that
> > https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
> 9SIV03829M5844&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-
> GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Network+-+Switches-_-9SIV03829M5844&gclid=CIHh_
> qf6js8CFVNZhgodO-MOeA
> >
> > Unless I'm missing something, I don't see why anyone would choose the
> 3300
> > over the 4300 considering the prices
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:38:57 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> > GS748Tv5
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> >
> > I'd take a hard look at a Juniper EX4300-48, but if money is a real
> sticking
> > point, then look at the specs on an HP switch or a Ubiquiti.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:21 PM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes lots of cad  Vectorworks  for the production  dept (15 users) amd
> lots
> > of video editing, However, the video is done on a rendering pc, once.its
> > completed ,  it goes back to the.synology
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> > GS748Tv5
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> >
> > Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?
> >
> > If not, then most anything will work.
> >
> > Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well
> > experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively
> > inexperienced with switches?
> >
> > If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or
> > Ubiquiti.
> >
> > If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity
> > for the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or
> > Ubiquiti.
> >
> > I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much
> like
> > Cisco or HP.
> >
> > Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else -
> > they're otherwise fine switches.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Currently flat,
> > 60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
> > 8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip
> > cameras
> >
> > A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic
> >
> > i site  to site
> >
> > 4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both
> servers
> > have 4 1 gb nics,
> >
> > primary internet is 100mb
> > backup internet is 25mb
> >
> > about 20 concurrent  remote  users
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> > GS748Tv5
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> >
> > How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many
> > VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput,
> etc?
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Got approval  for new core,
> >
> > Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
> > givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink
> > ports  does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ?
> >
> > TiA
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +0000
> >
> > Core sort of implies layer 3.
> >
> > --
> > There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
> >          those who understand binary and those who don't.
> >
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>]
> > On Behalf Of J- P
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> >
> > Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> > switch  -
> >
> > maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
> > ________________________________
> > From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> > this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less
> on
> > your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a
> situation
> > realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected
> functionality.
> >
> > As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> > functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Espi
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> > 2nd switch, or use the firewall
> >
> > https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/
> Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-
> DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
> > ________________________________
> > From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Hi J-P,
> >
> > I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm
> understanding
> > your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont
> see
> > how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper
> > mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this model is a
> > lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered
> managed
> > switch.
> >
> > I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
> >
> > https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/
> Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Espi
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P <jnat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone, Bueller,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean-Paul Natola
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: jnat...@hotmail.com
> > To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends
> to
> > create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,
> as a
> > matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
> > options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
> >
> > So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall
> > port and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for
> ip-helper
> > or DHCP relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the
> DHCP
> > scope 192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )
> >
> > If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then
> > successfully ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP
> option
> > 82 on the DHCP server;
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
> >
> > which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option
> > 82, still no joy-
> >
> > if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
> >
> > and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this
> POS
> > switch
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean-Paul Natola
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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