OK, so let's try running this around the defensive ends. :)

Instead of letting the CMAK profile update the route table with it's normal 
cmroute.dll method, I can manually update the routes with post-connect tasks, 
etc.  The logic is straightforward enough to do it and remove it at disconnect. 
 I even have scripted a user creation process during the profile installation 
to build an admin level user on the machine to use for the purpose.  All well 
and good.  I was planning on doing a runas to call the required scripts so 
they'll work, but gee, I can't pass the password, it prompts for it.

Any words of wisdom on silently running an admin level task?  Since I'm 
assuming BYOD units will have admin level access anyway this is really only for 
our portable users to prevent having to give them admin rights to actually run 
the VPN.

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         those who understand binary and those who don't.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 3:56 PM
To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: CMAK profiles without admin rights

I'm afraid not.

We use the 2012R2 DirectAccess, and it's a champ (with one caveat - I've had a 
fair amount of problems with Win10 1607, it loses connections with regularity, 
and I don't know if there's an update for either client or server that helps.)

For a backup (and those without company laptops to take home) we use an 
Aventail/Dell EX6000 for SSL VPN, and it Just Works.

Kurt

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Melvin Backus <[email protected]> wrote:
> My apologies if I stepped too closely to those extremities.  :)
>
> I'd really love to get this in place as it would solve more than one nagging 
> problem.  Any words of wisdom to ease that journey?
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>          those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:20 PM
> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: CMAK profiles without admin rights
>
> Ah. I first configured DirectAccess with 2008R2 and UAG 2010, and have since 
> migrated to 2012 R2. That name change didn't catch up with me...
>
> And I resemble that remark - We're no more than 10 miles from the campus of 
> the Evil Empire, on the border between Redmond and Krkland...
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Melvin Backus <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> URA = Universal Remote Access = DirectAccess 2012
>>
>> You know how our friends in the great NW like to rename things. :)
>>
>>
>> --
>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>>          those who understand binary and those who don't.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:00 PM
>> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: CMAK profiles without admin rights
>>
>> URA? I do not know this term.
>>
>> However, it looks like it might be related to DirectAccess, and I was going 
>> to make a snarky comment about you needing to implement that.
>> It's so beautifully transparent, and just works.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Melvin Backus <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> I just confirmed that this doesn't work, at least on my W10 box.  UAC is 
>>> off, when you try to run either a route add to manually add a route or when 
>>> cmroute.dll runs to automatically update the routes you're prompted for 
>>> elevation and since the user isn't in the administrator group they can't 
>>> elevate.
>>>
>>> I've been working on getting URA in place anyway. Maybe this will 
>>> finally be the push to make it happen. :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>>>          those who understand binary and those who don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James M. Pulver
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:00 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: CMAK profiles without admin rights
>>>
>>> If the problem is the routes don't get published, you can put Users in 
>>> Network Configurator Operators group, and turn off UAC, and then normal 
>>> users can update their route maps.
>>>
>>> James Pulver
>>> CLASSE Computer Group
>>> Cornell University
>>>
>>> On 10/13/2016 07:46 AM, Melvin Backus wrote:
>>>> Budget for this is nil but I'll have a look and see.  The 
>>>> installation of the connectoid isn't the issue, it's all runtime 
>>>> when the user tries to connect to the VPN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>>>>          those who understand binary and those who don't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *James Rankin
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:15 AM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: CMAK profiles without admin rights
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can use privilege management tools like AppSense Application 
>>>> Manager, RES, Scense and the like to configure specific files that 
>>>> can run with elevated rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's also tools like CPAU from JoeWare which can run scripts 
>>>> with elevated privileges so that you can get the profile build to complete 
>>>> maybe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Melvin 
>>>> Backus
>>>> *Sent:* 13 October 2016 12:05
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] CMAK profiles without admin rights
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We've been working on removing admin rights for users in our 
>>>> environment. One snag we've run into is related to our RAS VPN 
>>>> connections and CMAK profiles.  In order to make everything work 
>>>> we're using CMAK to build the profile which includes routing, etc.
>>>> We can't seem to find a way to get those to work without admin 
>>>> rights because cmroute.dll won't run without elevation.  Any 
>>>> recommendations on how to get around this or possibly push the 
>>>> routes once during initial install and not have to run them at connect 
>>>> time?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------
>>>> Melvin Backus | Sr. Systems Engineer | Byers Engineering Company |
>>>> 404.497.1565
>>>>
>>>> Service Desk | 404-497-1599 | https://servicedesk.byers.com
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>>>>          those who understand binary and those who don't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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