The VM would still have to be serving up file services.  We have a mixed 
environment of Windows/Unix that, among other things, need to 
read/write/move/rename butt loads of common files.  Back when we used a lot of 
NFS it really got interesting from a permissions standpoint.  Now that we have 
more or less standardized on CIFS it took a lot of complexity out of the 
equation.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:41 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] ALL Flash Storage

I've not trusted CIFS on a SAN/NAS since Dell NASes left a really bad taste in 
my mouth back in early 2001.

I'm sure they're better now, but my thought has always been to use a Windows VM 
as a front end, and not worry about it.

What's your reason for using a CIFS provider vs. a VM with iSCSI/FC/FCoE on the 
backend?

Kurt

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Maglinger, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of our requirements is that it has to be able to support CIFS under heavy 
> load.  We had a HP EVA a while back that used Windows 2003 Storage Server to 
> provide the CIFS shares.  With our workload the CIFS would simply stop 
> responding and we'd have to reboot the server.  Same with 2008.  HP couldn't 
> resolve the issue so our solution was to break up the jobs into smaller 
> pieces.  So whatever solution we come up with has to have a rock solid CIFS 
> server.  BTW - NetApps handled the loads just fine.  We'd stay with them if 
> they didn't triple the cost.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Kays
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] ALL Flash Storage
>
> We recently moved to Nimble, and our expectations were surpassed. The Nimble 
> sales team did a good  job helping us to properly size the Array, and 
> suggested that we did not need all flash saving some money.
>
> I would be a bit hesitant to bite on the SmartStack concept; we have found 
> that in practice it does not live up to expectations. I understood it to be a 
> single support point, when in reality we still get bounced around. The 
> support for the Array its self has met our needs, no complaints.
>
> Kevin Kays
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Nutanix seems pretty outrageously priced for what you get. Ditto EMC.
>> But, for larger organizations they might make sense - they just don't 
>> for us, as a smaller organization with only about 200 staff in our HQ.
>>
>> Pure is interesting, and we may ask them to participate in our 
>> process, but we don't have an opinion on them yet.
>>
>> Nimble is the favored candidate because of our IT Director's previous 
>> experience with them - I don't have any myself.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Maglinger, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm watching this conversation closely.  We're looking to replace our 
>>> NetApp because our renewal maintenance costs basically tripled.  We of 
>>> course had the option to upgrade our heads for around the same cost, but 
>>> were surprised to find out that we would have to repurchase all of our 
>>> software if we did so.
>>> So Nutanix, Pure, and EMC have been banging on our door and one vendor is 
>>> suggesting Nimble.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:54 PM
>>> To: ntsysadm
>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] ALL Flash Storage
>>>
>>> We also have a VNX 5400 (and a VNXe 3100), and we're going to dump it for 
>>> Nimble in the middle of the year, once our support runs out.
>>>
>>> The cost of renewing support will cover a new Nimble, basically, and we 
>>> expect much improved performance.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:24 AM, David McSpadden <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> What is eveyone’s thoughts on All Flash Storage?
>>>>
>>>> I am looking to replace the Storage I have attached to my VNX5400 
>>>> from EMC with either:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EMC Unity
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PureStorage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nimble
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven’t gotten all the proposals in yet but was wondering what 
>>>> everyone else thought about them?
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