“our users are local admins on their Windows laptops and we not stop them from 
installing any software they want”

Who supports said software, or is there any expectation of support? If Joe 
BillyBob installs FileMaker or MS Access and creates a database and queries 
that become key to a department or two, which happens if that app breaks or 
that user leaves and nobody knows how this feature was created and how to fix 
it. I’ve run into this “silo of expertise” on a few occasions and once that 
person leaves, that functionality is dropped as soon as it breaks.

“Why not allow torrent traffic?” and “My boss, who is actually quite 
knowledgeable in IT matters”    <--  I must be old school, as I fond those 
comments in conflict if we’re talking about business systems.

A person who is fluent in desktop technology and software (and therefore 
considered by the general public as “knowledgeable in IT matters”) is not 
necessarily equipped to handle a sysadmin IT role where scaling, 
standardization and security have higher priorities. Just because it’s 
considered Ok to do something at home doesn’t mean it’s smart to apply that 
philosophy to 2,000 home workers. A business with 50-ish systems you can get 
away with a lot less structure than you can with 5,000 systems.

On backups – who’s responsible for making sure the backups actually worked – 
IT, or each user? I’ve been down the “back up every users’ machine” and it was 
a mess because you didn’t know if backups failed because they happened to be 
offline or what. The only way I see that being manageable is having a target of 
at least one backup/week, that way missing a day or three doesn’t trigger 
investigation time.

Good topic though…

Dave

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT: IT Philosophy

Get your manager's view in writing.

#1 -- If he's fine with convergence of liability, then great.

#3 -- Speak to legal

#4 -- Security requires defense in depth.  Deliberately eliminating one layer 
of protection does not lend itself to security.

I hope that your customers are either consumers or enterprises which don't care 
about security, or this will come back to bite the organization sooner rather 
than later.

Get your manager's view in writing.   (Repeated for emphasis)


Regards,



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On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 11:24 PM, Kish N Kepi 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

We keep a lax environment – our users are local admins on their Windows laptops 
and we not stop them from installing any software they want – the only caveat I 
ever say is ‘don’t be stupid’. And yes, we are a hi-tech house, well beyond the 
startup stage.



During a conversation about potential changes to the way we do backups today, I 
stated that the current back up routine specifically excludes most media files, 
and also that I’d used psexec to kill utorrent processes. My boss, who is 
actually quite knowledgeable in IT matters, had a response surprised me: why? 
Why not backup the media files? Why not allow torrent traffic? His points were 
as follows:

1.      We give them laptops and smartphones and expect them to be available at 
all hours of the day – that’s convergence of home and office life – why 
shouldn’t we backup the photos of their kids, pets and vacations too?

2.      Do we have bandwidth issues? We have a broad link to the internet and 
only at periodic peaks do we hit anywhere near our limit

3.      Legality of torrents? Really? How many people care about the legality?

4.      Malware? We have other protections in place.



I couldn’t come up with any answers that sounded reasonable to me, so at this 
stage, we’re planning increase our backup storage capacity.



Does anyone here have answers that I lack? Sorry for cross-posting, but I this 
question is bothering me, and I know that many people in this for a have 
strong, well-formed (and well-expressed) opinions



Kish n Kepi

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