I will add to this discussion a little personal experience. I have seen some of my garage clients go in after I get them setup and running and turn OFF updates. When they start having issues and call I usually find they are way behind in updates and sometimes even have multiple bugs of various types. When I ask them why, they for the most part respond with there is an “expert” on the Internet that posted an article that showed they did not need the updates, and how to turn off updates. Despite the fact I have told them repeatedly to not make changes to the auto-updates setting they continue to do so. Personal note my wife had one of her “friends” tell her this same load of BS and I have had to rebuild her system 6 times in one year before I stripped her of admin rights to keep her from making those changes. Once was a ransom bug that just gave her fits but I refused to pay the ransom so she lost months of stuff including a bunch of pictures. On those clients that continue to make changes they are told 3 rebuilds and I stop coming to you for repairs, find your “expert” and have them fix your machine. Harsh but I am tired of listening to them whine that Apple and Android machines don’t need updates why does Microsoft. I point out that on Apple machines the updates replace the OS with a new OS number. Android machines may not get updates depending on what they are referring to due to the manufacturer not sending any out.
Jon From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:34 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Microsoft announces Windows 7 is a security disaster. I have been struck with the infamous update wait at a bad time on a PC without its updates managed as well, and it most certainly pissed me off to no end but in a corp env you can manage that all no differently in Windows 10 than in previous versions. For the env’s that don’t have it managed, (my opinion is irrelevant) I do understand the scenario MS are in. If they don’t “help” you, then somehow “they” get labeled for producing poor software. Its ridiculous really but I see their dilemma and I can understand how they arrived at the current implementation. I disagree with the idea that it hides it, I do think it manages it for you when it sees you have not done so explicitly (with SCCM etc). It can’t read minds and if no infrastructure is in place, it chooses a default which is simply to err on the safe side. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:22 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Microsoft announces Windows 7 is a security disaster. You mean MS leveraged pure FUD. The author is simply trying to expose the FUD. Yeah, every piece of software gets updates. Get that. Software shouldn't hide the fact that it has been updated or in the process of updating. On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Joseph L. Casale <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Couldn’t agree more, I don’t do today what I learned had a better way to do yesterday. What that author simply leveraged pure FUD to describe was every piece of software ever written. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kent, Mark Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:51 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Microsoft announces Windows 7 is a security disaster. All software is a work in progress.
