Nope, and thanks to all for confirming.  I already removed it and restarted 
servers this morning with no issues in the software functionality, and everyone 
is now aware in case something crops up.

I’d be curious to know what your product was that required it?  This is a third 
party centralized video camera security monitoring solution for our schools 
that runs on a customized WS12R2 on custom Dell hardware.  New server systems 
and cameras are still being brought online as they retrofit and replace old 
cameras and scale up to eventually include coverage for all sites.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Managed Service Accounts

It's been years since I have used a product that "required" its MSA to be in 
the Enterprise Admins group, and even then it was suspect.  I can't recall the 
specific app to provide more details, but the oddity of it stands out in my 
memory.  In the end, it depends on the app and what its doing.

If your MSA doesn't require cross-domain permissions, then it doesn't belong in 
the Enterprise Admins group.  This document highlights some examples of 
Enterprise Admins group requirements:

http://www.w2k.vt.edu/docs/EAScenarios.pdf

--
Espi


On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Miller Bonnie L. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks, and I already know what it’s used for and it doesn’t even need domain 
admin or local admin on the boxes it’s used on.  I just don’t have any others 
to compare it to but it didn’t seem right.  So nobody else sees this with their 
managed service accounts, that they are in their enterprise admins group?

I’d love to use more, we just haven’t upgraded/replaced any on-prem systems in 
a while that would need one.  Locking the groups down via restricted is 
something we’ve discussed before but haven’t done, will bring it up again.

-Bonnie

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Managed Service Accounts

I make extensive use of them. Anytime I need a service account (for Windows 
based apps that can utilize them) I use an MSA or GMSA. They work great as they 
remove the manual password management task from you.

For example, I always install MSSQL servers with them, the required permissions 
are well documented in regards to what each service requires in which scenarios.

To be honest, I can’t fathom any app needing that level of permission and I am 
not sure I would automate one that did…  Find out what uses it, I doubt once 
you know that you will have any trouble inferring the genuine permission 
requirements…

jlc

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miller Bonnie L.
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 2:59 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Managed Service Accounts

So, I’m doing a regular review of admin accounts and found something odd I want 
to ask about before I change that I can’t find any reference to in Google-land. 
 Our “Enterprise admins” group has a managed service account in it, which I 
don’t think should be there, but I really don’t know as we had a new system 
installed this last year and it’s actually our first managed service account, 
so I don’t have another one to compare it to.  Although I have participated in 
the some of the later setup, another domain admin helped with this portion 
while I was out.

So, does anyone who is using managed service accounts see them show up in your 
Enterprise Admins group, or have any reference to documentation saying it 
should be there?  On the account properties there is no “member of” tab to look 
at.

If it’s not supposed to be there I want to remove it and restart the related 
systems to make sure everything continues to work correctly, but wouldn’t want 
to change it if it’s supposed to be there.

Thanks,
Bonnie

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