Unknown. We do have an EA with bridge licensing, but how quickly we
move to the cloud is undetermined.

And, I haven't even looked at what O365/Azure Constrained Access" might be.

Kurt

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry I wasn't clear.
>
> I meant, will you require "Office 365/Azure Constrained Access"?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:21 PM
> To: ntsysadm
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking for input
>
> Do you mean need mobile/BYOD?
>
> Likely will, but whether we'll be on O365/Azure by then is an open question 
> in my mind.
>
> I'd prefer not, but I recognize that MSFT wants their money, so will do 
> everything they can to force us there.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I can't speak to your environment, but many of my customers are pushing for 
>> Office 365/Azure Constrained Access.
>>
>> Especially because of mobile/BYOD.
>>
>> I suggest you should consider the likelihood or whether you'll NEED that 
>> capability within 5 years.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:31 PM
>> To: ntsysadm
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking
>> for input
>>
>> Ran through your posts in this thread, and i have to say that it looks like 
>> the days of DA are numbered.
>>
>> However, if I implement it under 2016, it should be supported for at least 5 
>> more years (assuming that Win10 still supports it, too).
>>
>> So, I'm not worried too much about that as such, but AVPN support for 
>> non-domain-joined devices looks very interesting, and the fact that DA only 
>> supported IPv6 was sometimes limiting.
>>
>> I think I'll explore AVPN a bit more, and probably include it as an option.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> So.... just a data point to consider.
>>>
>>> Microsoft is kinda moving away from DirectAccess.
>>>
>>> Many of the security functionalities added in Server 2016 won't work with 
>>> DA.
>>>
>>> Instead you need to be using their Automatic VPN. The endpoint isn't very 
>>> relevant, although they push RRAS.
>>>
>>> For example, WIP doesn't work properly with DA. Only with AVPN.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:19 PM
>>> To: ntsysadm
>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking
>>> for input
>>>
>>> Arg - that should be "seeking commercial services"..
>>>
>>> And, once I bring recommendations, it might well be that we just fall back 
>>> to a DirectAccess server in each office, with our without a multi-site 
>>> configuration, potentially with an SSP VPN appliance also at each office 
>>> for backup and contractors, and call it good.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure either, but that's the task I've been given - not
>>>> necessarily to implement at this stage, but to scope out the
>>>> alternatives and come up with some possibilities.
>>>>
>>>> It's also why I'm seeing recommendations on commercial services, so
>>>> that our implementation requirements are minimized.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Joseph L. Casale
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I've done a lot of openvpn setups in a myriad of formats, site to site, 
>>>>> hub and spoke, client etc.
>>>>> It works well and there are even some lesser documented features that do 
>>>>> some neat stuff but you are now rolling your solution and marinating it 
>>>>> manually.
>>>>> Not sure how well that will scale unless you have a skilled team.
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:22 PM
>>>>>> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Looking for a global VPN solution - looking
>>>>>> for input
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) For staff, currently we're using DirectAccess on 2012R2 as our
>>>>>> primary conduit in the US, with SSL VPNs (SonicWall and Palo Alto
>>>>>> Global Protect) as primary for our overseas offices and secondary
>>>>>> for the US (Sonicwall).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) In the US office, we also have contractors/consultants needing
>>>>>> to use our SSL VPN for access to various resources, and that will
>>>>>> likely expand to our overseas offices soon. Differentiation and
>>>>>> securing resources is even more important here than in 1).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) We also stand up IPSec tunnels for vendors/partners as needed
>>>>>> (lab to lab), for interoperability/compatibility testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're looking to get into a solution that will take care of at
>>>>>> least the first two (and ideally the third as well), so that we
>>>>>> don't have so many platforms to support, and so that we can make
>>>>>> sure that staff in the field get the fasted connection available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've taken a quick gander at the websites for vyprvpn (Golden
>>>>>> Frog), and OpenVPN (commercial client offering), but don't have
>>>>>> much of an opinion on them, as info about them is a bit thin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have experience with solutions like this, and care to comment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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