There are always more problems:

https://www.thezdi.com/blog/2017/10/04/vmware-escapology-how-to-houdini-the-hypervisor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRemWLNBSZg

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> But wait!   There's more...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrksBdWcZgQ
>
>
> ​(I see your "solution" and raise you two more problems)​
>
> Regards,
>
>  *ASB*
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The OS in question (minix), isn't in the main CPU - it's in the CPU of
>> the management engine, which is completely separate, and doesn't, or at
>> least shouldn't, affect system performance.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology#Hardware
>>
>> That actually makes it worse, since as long as the machine is connect to
>> power, even though putatively "off", the management engine is available.
>> That is, if it's been configured. This is an enterprise feature, so the ME
>> is usually not active in consumer-grade computers.
>>
>> But, if it's present and turned on, then it's pretty risky:
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/09/chipzilla_come_clos
>> er_closer_listen_dump_ime/
>>
>> But there's some hope, of a sort - Google is on the case:
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/google-removing-minix-manag
>> ement-engine-intel,35876.html
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No wonder our machines don't seem as fast as we think they *could*
>>> be...     They're busy running more stuff than we thought:
>>>
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-ope
>>> rating-system/
>>>
>>> The security implications are also pretty staggering...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  *ASB*
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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