I've always been very happy with Compaq servers and their server
support. I still recommend them highly.
 
For lower end servers I have a habit of recomending Dell. Their hardware
is solid. I'm not real happy with their support.
 
A Dell laptop eh?
 
I spent almost 4 weeks waiting for a Dell 8100 laptop this summer.
Finally cancelled the order and picked up a Compaq 1710T from
PCCONNECTION. I got the Compaq 2 days after ordering (because I was too
cheap to pay for overnight shipping). I'm glad I did (really nice
machine!!). Delivery delays/BS are one of my biggest gripes about Dell.

-----Original Message-----
From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq



We are almost totally a Compaq shop now - (48 Servers and approx 400
W/S) and I must confess to being hugely impressed, the only time we have
to call support if hardware - and in the last 5 years that has been 3
Hard Drives (all part of RAID 5 with hot spare arrays - phew!!) and
numerous DLT drives... the servers themselves have been ROCK SOLID......
the only experience of Dell is the laptop I am typing on at the
moment... no complaints so far in 18 months of sterling service....

As the old saying goes - "you get what you pay for" and it's not always
right - I would not touch IBM again in a fit (old decision by an old
manager, gone now :-)) - we have engineers working on the 4 Netfinity
servers we have in a remote office more than anything else - I won't
even mention the AS/400's ;-B

If you can handle the budget - go Compaq - Insight Manager rocks
(especially with the BMC Patrol stuff they bundle with the latest
versions - my servers mail me to say that the tape drive needs to be
cleaned now..)

HTH 
Jack 

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From: Correa, Andre [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 31 August 2001 00:00 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq 


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I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell, and each had their good and
bad 
sad.  Dell has excellent technical support, and helped me bring back a
dying 
PowerEdge 4300, which by the way I have had some serious problems with
in 
the past.  PowerEdge 2450 and 2200 were excellent servers and I never
had a 
problem with them.  Compaq support, I cannot speak of, as I have NEVER
had 
to call them, a testament to their ProLiant Series of servers, DL320's, 
DL360's, CL380's, etc.  IBM service was very good as well, next day
onsite 
support for their NetFinity 5500 series and 6000 series servers, (the
most 
powerful I have come across), and those machines are very well built
also. 

If cost is your primary concern, and you are looking for decent
hardware, 
and you can deal with the occasional call to tech support, go with Dell.
If 
you want state of the art management technology, with 99.99995% uptime,
go 
with Compaq, or IBM as a second choice.  Good luck to you and happy 
shopping. 

 -----Original Message----- 
From:   Benjamin Winzenz [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent:   Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:00 PM 
To:     NT System Admin Issues 
Subject:        RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq 

I don't know if you will get exact comparisons as their models are
slightly 
different.  If you are researching this, it may pay off to check both 
websites and compare models that you feel are similar.  I do know that I

have worked with both Compaq and Dell and have liked both.  I have about
10 
Dell servers that in the almost 2 years we have had them, I have had 1
hard 
drive fail - that is it.  We have 1 Compaq  server that just quietly
humms 
along never complaining about anything. 

Ben Winzenz, MCSE 
Network/Systems Administrator 
Peregrine Systems, Inc. 

 -----Original Message----- 
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent:   Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:41 PM 
To:     NT System Admin Issues 
Subject:        RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq 


I didnt do the cost comparison personally, but one of our people said
it's 
about half.    We currently have a total of about 120 servers, but a lot
of 
them are getting pretty old and we are going to budget to replace them
as 
part of the Win2k conversion.    I still have to do an evaluation per 
server according to how many users it serves to set a size and cost for 
each. 




                    Sean Martin 

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                    08/30/2001 02:31 PM          Subject:     RE: Dell 
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                    System Admin Issues" 







I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running
all 
Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support 
call 
(knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 
Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. 

Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and
Compaq 
on like models? 

Regards, 

Sean Martin, MCSE 
Network Administrator 
Ribelin Lowell & Company 
Insurance Brokers, Inc. 
3111 C Street, Suite 300 
Anchorage, Alaska 99503 
Ph: (907) 561-1250 
Fax: (907) 561-4315 
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-----Original Message----- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq 


The company has <almost> 100% Compaq servers.     Now there is a 
requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because
of 
the cost difference.     What experiences have you had with Dell - 
reliability, support, upgrades etc?    Anyone running them both in the
same 
network?   I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a
few 
of the remote insight boards installed.    Does Dell have equivalents? 
How about doing things like firmware upgrades? 

Thanks in advance for your time and help on this.   If you have any docs

you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. 

Thanks - DR 


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