Ah, someone else who remembers the quote I prompted for last night.
We are in agreement on this issue, Andrew. Carnivore, Echelon and etc. are
not good for this country.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 06:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT? perspective of events
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In order to increase our security, I'm sure we Americans
are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom
and privacy.
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To me, this is the worse thing about terrorism. We lose what we
cherish, and that is freedom. And many will accept this, because they
think it will be better -- but it won't.
A wise man once said: "They that can give up essential liberty to
obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor
safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:14 AM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: OT? perspective of events
>
>
>My sympathies and thoughts go out to everyone directly
>affected by these
>cowardly acts. My thoughts also go out to the millions of
>us indirectly
>affected.
>
>Now to bring a slightly on-topic slant to the discussions -
>in recent months
>there has been considerable debate on Carnivore (the FBI's electronic
>snooping tool). In order to increase our security, I'm sure
>we Americans
>are going to have to give up some of our personal freedom
>and privacy. As
>IT pro's, has anyone's opinion of Carnivore changed? I know
>if someone had
>asked me the question on Monday, I was adamantly against
>Carnivore. Today,
>I'm willing to accept some software "black-box" scanning my
>email looking
>for suspicious activity.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>BTW - just because I am initiating a slightly on topic
>discussion, in no way
>am I suggesting that that the other threads stop. I'm all
>for them. Many
>of our list members are in NY and DC. Those who don't like
>the off topic
>discussions - learn to use the delete key or setup a filter or rule.
>
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