First hand knowledge from friends of mine employed at MS that specifically
tell me the who/what/why of things that happen at Microsoft.

 

You are right Silverlight is a defensive measure, but again that is only
because someone else has already done it right (regardless of security).
Because Flash has done it "right" they are responsible for a technology that
has become an extremely prevalent part of the average consumers online
experience. They are simply reacting to the prevelance of the technology,
forget which company label it falls under, I promise you. I mean heck you
could call it a nobody name like "Netscape." As long as the _technology_ was
a perceived threat to them, in some way, they would be getting the monkeys
to work cloning it in a heartbeat. Either way I think Silverlight is a good
thing, because I think competition is a good thing. As long as they don't
use their market dominance to shove it down IT administrators throats,
because you guys have enough crap to deal with already.

 

Microsoft is indeed responsible for the explosion of the scroll wheel but
not the inventor or first to do it by any means. There were already two
different companies making scroll wheel mice before Microsoft. Microsoft did
however "invent" and patent the horizontal scroll wheel. That does not mean
that Microsoft's market reach didn't help make the scroll wheel jjnprolific,
but that again is them being good on business and borrowing on technology.

 

Obviously I am sure Microsoft has invented a lot of things, a quick patent
search would show that. But it is sad when you see companies as large as
Microsoft and never having done half of what places like Xerox PARC did from
a technology innovation perspective. And thus a subtle jab to my MS Research
friend who trolls this list for ideas J 

 

Either way not picking on Microsoft, they are undoubtedly one of the most
brilliant companies I will know of in my lifetime, but more for their
business cunning than technology innovation.

 

Which brings me to a question I love hearing answers for, what has been a
recent technology that has had the most impact on you? Could be something
that makes your IT job easier, or could be your car that parallel parks
itself.

 

-Marc Maiffret

Freelance Security Consultant

http://www.marcmaiffret.com

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?

 

 

Marc,

 

Do you have any inside knowledge on this product? Or is this just your
speculation?

 

Having talked to a few people in the WT&P group, Silverlight started off as
a defensive measure to ward off Adobe. When Macromedia owned Flash, no one
at Microsoft really cared that much about it. Now that Adobe owns it, people
felt that Microsoft couldn't stand still. Nothing to do with waiting for
someone else to make it successful and then copying it. More to do with "we
can't sit buy and have no response"

 

As for innovation - I'm sure Microsoft was the first vendor to put a scroll
wheel on a mouse. I think everyone has them these days.

 

I'm sure they've done a few other things during their time as well.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?

 

 

This is the Microsoft MO and has been for years. They have never innovated
anything in the history of their existence. Well, Microsoft Bob maybe, hah.

 

Wait for someone else to succeed in doing it right, copy them and use
monopolistic business practices to crush them. There are a million examples
but you already know them all.

 

Things are changing however, Microsoft's, wait, bait, obliterate, strategy
plan is losing legs against companies like Google. Mostly because the world
consumers are being less dependent on the operating system and more
dependent on the services the internet provides as a platform. But even
there Microsoft is trying their damndest to clone everything that Google and
the likes are doing.

 

-Marc Maiffret

Freelance Security Consultant

http://www.marcmaiffret.com

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?

 

 

Just what the world needs - a new VHS vs. Beta war.  How many of these
crusades (challenging the estabilshed leader in web/Internet technology)
have been outright winners for MS since Internet Explorer?   Will they ever
learn?

 

The effort and investment would be better spent on moving the technology to
an open standard.

 

Carl

 

  _____  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?

 

Well, I think that Flash is "evil". 

 

Silverlight actually can do some things that Flash can't and from a
development perspective is much easier to use. I'm certain that Flash can do
things that Silverlight can't.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?

 


Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does
the same thing as another well-established product?

No thanks - I'll pass (for now).

On Dec 27, 2007 2:20 PM, Rod Trent < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

If you've messed with it at all from a development standpoint, you really
like it.  If you've watched the news, there are a lot of sites already on
board with it.

Personally, I'm glad to see something else besides Flash come out.  Now, if
we could just rid ourselves of this PDF stuff.

 

 

 







 
    

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