So you're going to continue to fumble and hope you can get a  
reproducible method down because you can't get a book and actually  
figure out what needs to be done properly?  Just out of curiousity,  
what does DNS look like on your disjoined server?  Have you looked up  
Seize FSMO Role in the MS KB?  What about 
http://www.google.com/search?rls=en-us&q=disaster+recovery+best+practice+active+directory&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
 
  ?

2003 is not NT4.  Properly planned and understood, recovery shouldn't  
be harder, but the techniques are definitely diffeent.

On Jan 7, 2008, at 20:05 , MarvinC wrote:

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> "You probably want to go and buy (and read) some AD books."
>
> Good point but that's not possible at the moment and work won't stop  
> because of it so I have to continue to move on and use what I have.
>
> To date I've come across two processes "Domain rename" & "AD  
> disaster recovery". I tried the disaster recovery method by backing  
> up an old Dell Precision 410 DC and restoring it to an older  
> Gateway ???. This worked with the exception of some TCP/IP errors I  
> get after logging in. Other than that all network services are  
> running, the domain name is the same, and I have access to the  
> domain and all AD objects.
> #2. I haven't tried the domain rename because I need to keep as much  
> of the existing domain in place.
> #3. I've yet to come across a documented solution for creating a  
> bonafide test lab consisting of the existing domain structure and  
> its network objects. I've heard talk that it's possible but have yet  
> to see a KB article or be pointed to a link orsite with this "easy"  
> info.
>
> The Error:
> "The system cannot log you on becasue the domain is not available"
>
> This is a given being that none of the services are available. What  
> I can't figure out is what's going wrong to cause this. What steps  
> do I apply once the server has been promoted to a DC?
>
> thanks
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 8:28 PM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You probably want to go and buy (and read) some AD books.
>
>
> I do this all the time – I have 5 DCs in virtual machines on this  
> laptop, and I have no need to start all of them to be able to login  
> to one of them. But there are many things that could break what you  
> are trying to do.
>
>
> "I get an error" isn't very helpful either.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
> From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:32 AM
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> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Copying AD data to another server (lab)
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> I'm missing something and it's driving me nutz! I dcpromo the member  
> server making it a DC in an existing domain, make sure DNS is  
> installed, make the server a GC and allow a full replication, yet  
> when take it offline and attempt to log in I get an error.
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> On Dec 27, 2007 10:58 AM, Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
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> Sure. Just on your "lab" domain you need to seize all the fsmo roles.
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>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:12 AM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Copying AD data to another server (lab)
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>
>
> I may have asked this but don't recall getting a response so excuse  
> me for posting it again but I need to know if this is possible.
>
> Has anyone ever tried and/or been successful at moving active  
> directory data to an alternate server? I'm trying to create a test  
> lab for this environment and wanted to copy the existing AD  
> structure to the new test server. As of right now I've brought up a  
> new server on the network, ran dcpromo and selected it to function  
> as a DC in an existing domain. I take the server off the network and  
> log in with cached credentials but when trying to open ADUC I'm  
> informed that the "Naming information cannot be located because the  
> specified domain doesn't exist or cannot be contacted". I'm sure one  
> of the reasons is the FSMO roles so I'm trying to figure out the  
> best way to get them and the entire forest moved to this new server.  
> In NT4 you could configure a server to be a BDC, take it offline,  
> and then promote it to a PDC and the entire structure would remain  
> intact. Is this possible with Windows Server 2003 SP2?
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> ANY responses appreciated.
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University of Southern California
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