Known methods of defeating the firewall?

 

I would actually try the following. 

 

1)       Apply the firewall and its rule-set in a test lab

2)       Get permission to load up Metasploit, Canvas, or other pen-testing 
tools

3)       Try to exploit the system with known attacks and see if successful. 

 

Now think: A simple social engineering attack to gain a password of a user or 
other information to gain local administrator rights, exact those cached 
passwords from last logged on folks, and then use that username/password 
combination to elevate privilege throughout your entire domain structure isn't 
that hard to do, and firewalls aren't going to prevent that type of attack 
which is probably easier for a pen-tester to do than try and slam through a 
firewall. 

 

Path of least resistance is what I would be looking for in a pen-test scenario, 
which means doing recon first and ascertaining where the controls are the 
weakest. People are always the weakest link. There is no technical controls to 
stop stupidity. 

 

Possible a HIDS might be a better avenue of approach, have you looked into the 
Cisco Security Agent, or BIT-9 Parity product? 

 

What controls do you have on the workstations now? Vulnerability tests, Patch 
management, Security Template lockdowns, ACL scripts for services, TCP wrappers 
etc etc. 

 

Also, how much administrative time and overhead is it going to take to 
implement and maintain and centrally manage said firewalls and how does this 
affect regular business communications? 

 

Does the cost of the control ( firewall) outweight the value of the assets its 
protecting (computers, Users, Productivity?) (Doubt it in this scenario, but 
you never apply a control to an asset that doesn't have a positive ROI and 
reduce risk, without increasing administrative burden, ( Time of the 
administrators, users frustration, helpdesk calls need to be factored into the 
cost of the control when ascertaining whether to deploy it from a financial 
prespective) 

 

HTH

Z

 

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From: René de Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security: Firewall on desktops that don't leave the company?

 

 

Hi All,

 

Asking for opinions. Was informed that we are going to put firewalls on desktop 
pc's as well, though there is a firewall at the perimeter of the network.

One motivation was that with a pentest from the inside we would be more secure.

Are you doing this as well? Arguments for/against.

 

Thanks

René

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