Now you are all entering you real current Password right?  Hmmm..how long until 
you are hacked because the collected those Passwords?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

A good brute force attack doesn't throw passwords out for authentication - just 
gets the hashed passwords and checks them against hashed values, AFAIK. 
Therefore account lockouts are not triggered.


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From: "Ben Schorr" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:15:39 -1000
To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords


Length is more important than complexity, no doubt. While it's good to have 
mixed case and numbers and symbols the fact that you COULD is enough to force 
any brute force attack to check for it.



And, frankly, any system that will allow 1,000 passwords a second to be thrown 
at it without locking the account or alerting an admin has a serious problem.



Ben M. Schorr

Roland Schorr & Tower

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From: andy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords



huh.. just tried something similar to one of my passwords, all lowercase, all 
letters,  of course my real password has a couple of numbers in it.

780 quintillion years

20 character password all lowercase  - 97billion years
11character password all lowercase 314 years
huh... the password -- 0987654321aaaaaa -1 billion years
aaaaaaaaaaaa - 12 years to hack

so much for the password rules.

then again my password would not work on a unix system.  Are unix systems still 
only 8 characters.
it looks like any 8 character password can be hacked in less than a week.


At 11:00 AM 8/11/2011, Kennedy, Jim wrote:



Good point, I just got phished.

From: Gary Slinger [ mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

It wasn't one of my current 'real' passwords. I'm not putting one of those in 
on a site I don't know.

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From: "Kennedy, Jim" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:46:08 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

Buwhahahah.... 124 thousand years.

From: Gary Slinger [ mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

With one special character, 15 years. Without it, 4 days. Interesting.

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From: "Martin Blackstone" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:19:59 -0700
To: NT System Admin Issues< [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" < [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

I got one year.

From: Shauna Hensala [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

Have your users go here:  http://www.howsecureismypassword.net/
and enter their password to see how long it would take to crack.  A fun little 
exercise.

Description: Red roseShauna Hensala

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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:43:08 +0000
I changed my bed linens at the beginning of each semester whether they needed 
changing or not. J


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Crawford, Scott [ mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

nice.

Reminds me of an old roommate, "I clean the shower every six months whether it 
needs it or not."

Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint


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On Aug 11, 2011 7:42 AM, Webster <[email protected] > wrote:
I change my passwords religiously every 7 years.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>


From: Gasper, Rick [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ]
Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

Crap...I now have to change my password again...

From: Jon Harris [ mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ]
Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords

If the in-house team ever got a round to it both could be kept happy but using 
something like "Horses like 2 fly, like bugs like to be stepped on!"  Complex 
and easy to remember.  How long would that take for a brute force attack or a 
dictionary attack to get the password?

FYI that is NOT one of my passwords!

Jon
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Webster <[email protected] > wrote:
Because the security team and or auditor are simply following a check list.  
Complex passwords required - check.  My job is done.
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