> Or do you mean that you have other routing issues?

I have other routing issues.

More detail for the interested: I have a ProCurve 5308xl standing as the core 
swtich in our district. All of the schools connect to it over gigabit fiber, 
save one 100mbit school. I am trying to get a guest vlan working so I can put 
visitors and non-work related wifi devices on a separate network, but I want 
them to be forced to use our content filter.

Our content filter can't support multiple networks/vlans, but it can support 
multiple routed subnets. (Note I've complained to the manufacturer about this, 
but I don't seem to be getting anywhere on this front.) So, I need to route all 
of this "Guest" network through our normal network, while applying an ACL that 
prevents any traffic to/from this network except to/from our gateway/content 
filter.

I've got it working... sorta. I can get on the network, I get an IP from our 
DHCP server (Thanks guys!) and I can ping the other subnet and even the 
gateway. I just can't ping past the gateway.

I have a few theories I'm working through: Is my gateway/content filter somehow 
blocking the traffic? (Possibly) Is the gateway/content filter not setup to 
route traffic that originates in a subnet? (Also possibly)

The only odd thing I can see is that I can ping another subnet's interface on 
the 5308xl... and my route should not allow that. Thus, I'm looking at that as 
well... Does the default route take over even if I specify a route for a VLAN?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Kurt Buff
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Fri, 12 Aug 2011
11:53:01 -0700
Subject: Re: DHCP Server and multiple subnets


> Are you meaning that you need to forward a DHCP request over more than
> 1 router? That is, requestor is on subnet1, makes a request, router2
> forwards it over subnet2 to router2, which then forwards it to the
> DHCP server on subnet3. I haven't done that, nor heard of anyone who
> does, but it might be possible. That would be interesting. If that's
> the situation, however, I'd use it to make a case to collapse those
> two routers into one, if circumstances permitted.
> 
> Or do you mean that you have other routing issues?
> 
> Kurt
> 
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:38, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Thanks all. I tried it, and it worked perfectly... except I can't get it
> to route beyond the first router. But to my original question, DHCP passes
> along as prescribed and I can ping between subnets.
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kurt Buff
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Fri, 12 Aug 2011
> > 11:28:50 -0700
> > Subject: Re: DHCP Server and multiple subnets
> >
> >
> >> Not trickery.
> >>
> >> Assuming that there's a router in your environment, you need to put a
> >> helper address on the router for each subnet for which the DHCP server
> >> will be serving addresses. (You can run multiple subnets without a
> >> router, but it's really a bad idea.)
> >>
> >> For instance, on my HP 3400cl core switch, two of my vlans are set up
> >> as follows:
> >>
> >> vlan 111
> >>    name "VLAN111"
> >>    ip address 192.168.xx.xx 255.255.255.0
> >>    ip helper-address 192.168.xx.xx
> >>    tagged 25-47
> >>    exit
> >> vlan 112
> >>    name "VLAN112"
> >>    ip address 192.168.xx.xx 255.255.255.0
> >>    ip helper-address 192.168.xx.xx
> >>    tagged 25-47
> >>    exit
> >>
> >> It'll be very similar syntax on a Cisco switch for the helper address.
> >>
> >> The router then forwards the broadcast packet with to the DHCP server.
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 08:44, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hey list, quick question for ya as my googlefu is not coming up with
> >> concrete answers:
> >> >
> >> > Can a single DHCP server serve up two separate subnets? How does the
> DHCP
> >> server decide which subnet to place the client (besides reservations)?
> Does
> >> it just auto-magically figure it out based on where the broadcast is
> coming
> >> from, or is there other trickery involved?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --Matt Ross
> >> > Ephrata School District
> >> >
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