I missed that kb! Is dated July 2007. I think MS should release immeditely a 
patch (not a hotfix)
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

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Da: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: giovedì 17 gennaio 2008 21.13
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server



Looks like there is no separate hotfix for XP - we're supposed to apply the 
latest SP - but that's not SP2.   I guess release of SP3 is imminent?

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From: René de Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server




Maybe http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831374/ and 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831374/

Both same issue, 831374 for XP and Windows 2003 and 831375 for Windows 2000

 

First they say this

 

We recommend that you immediately apply the appropriate service pack or hotfix 
on any computer that is currently vulnerable to the loss of security 
descriptors. 

We recommend that you inventory servers and workstations in your organization 
and then install preventive software on any computers that are at risk. We 
recommend that you apply any preventive fix to new computers before you deploy 
the new computers for test or production use. We recommend that you inform 
server administrators, helpdesk administrators, and support professionals that 
they should install preventive fixes before the following operations are 
executed: 


*

chkdsk /F


*

chkdsk /R


*

Autochk

 

And then follow up with

Hotfix information

A supported hotfix is now available from Microsoft. However, this hotfix is 
intended to correct only the problem that is described in this article. Apply 
this hotfix only to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. This 
hotfix might receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely 
affected by this problem, we recommend that you wait for the next service pack 
that contains this hotfix.

 

Especially read both underlined parts. Yeah right, count the number of files, 
if you get near the limit and plan on using chkdsk then appy the hotfix....   
;-)

 

 

Doesn't really help after the fact though.

 

René

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

 

How I love chkdsk /f, while drive activity does seem normal, it apparently 
found invalid security descriptors on files and instead of telling me where 
they removed them from, it just randomly removed security and left it BLANK or 
Administrator only full control.

 

Some are good, and some are bad.  Everything from our My Doc redirection 
folders to public drives, to GP install DFS paths all the permissions are 
either right or wrong with no idea of what?

And since some are good and some are not, restoring from backup would not be 
the greatest idea, except that perhaps I can restore with the do not restore if 
new target exists using BUE.  Not sure if it would make a bad problem worse or 
save the day.

 

Event log doesn't give you much.  It looks like this will be fun.  I am 
applying user folders with their default permissions and applying to all files 
and subfolders to get their files right, but everything else is just going to 
be reactive fixing.

 

I would love to know what caused this corruption...  Just security descriptor 
errors according to the event log, no other errors.

 

From: René de Haas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

 

Right you are. Even without the /f I would first do a backup, as any activity 
can make a bad HDD worse.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

 

Hence that's why I said to backup before doing it.

 

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From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 


 

first chkdsk without /f just to see

Second see through Dell if they have drivers and firmware (also for disks) 
update

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

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Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: mercoledì 16 gennaio 2008 3.20
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Strange HDD behaivor on server

 

I have a 2003 Sp2 server running a HW Raid 1 and a HW Raid 5, all SAS drives 
same controller.  Dell 2950.  

Tens of thousands of files, thousands of directories.  

Whenever something hard hits the arrays like a VSS snapshot, Defrag, the drives 
completely become inaccessible to the host or remotes.  Drives are lit up near 
solid, but there are no signs from the raid card of a drive failure, raid 
issue.  Leave the system along long enough and it comes back from death.

Any ideas where I could start.  Letting it run a defrag tonight.

 

Thanks


Greg

 















 














 
 
 
    
 
 
 

 















 














 
 
 
    
 

 

 














 














 
 
 
    
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