Here are some articles that outline changes to NTLM in 2008r2 (and Win7)

   - http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46922
   - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd566199(WS.10).aspx


NTLM is supported, so long as 128-bit encryption is enabled, which might not
be true of older OSes.


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On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Ken Cornetet <[email protected]>wrote:

> I find that KB article confusing - it confirms that Server 2008 can do LM
> authentication, and that it uses the registry key to control what
> authentication is accepted  . We’ve had group policy in place for ages
> (possibly ever since we went to Active Directory) that does what that KB
> suggests (allows LanMan authentication, but tries to negotiate NTLM and
> NTLMv2)****
>
> ** **
>
> I’ve verified that the
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\LSA\LMCompatibilityLevel
> is set to 0 or 1 (depending on the group policy setting), but yet it will
> not authenticate.****
>
> ** **
>
> I notice that the KB article says only “Server 2008” not “Server 2008 R2”
> (Or Windows 7). I wonder if MS completely eliminated LanMan authentication
> compatibility on Server 2008 R2? I don’t recall ever reading this in any of
> the release notes or planning guides.****
>
> ** **
>
> Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499****
>
> To err is human - to moo, bovine.****
>
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>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:24 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: WIndows 95 and Server 2008 R2 DCs****
>
> ** **
>
> Given the business situation, it would seem that you have the choice
> between the following:
> ****
>
>
> -- Upgrading to 2008R2, and not authenticating the Win95 systems at all (as
> it is not supported) - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/954387****
>
> -- Leaving the Win2K3 DCs in place****
>
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>
> *ASB*****
>
> *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker*****
>
> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ken Cornetet <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> I have some Windows 95 computers authenticating against my domain.
> Currently, the domain is running on Server 2003 DCs, but I am in the process
> of upgrading to Server 2008 R2 DCs. I have already started to deploy Server
> 2008 DCs.****
>
>  ****
>
> I have one location that has a couple of Windows 95 computers, and they
> cannot authenticate against a Server 2008 R2 DC – even with what I think is
> the appropriate group policy (the same policy allows the Windows 95 machines
> to authenticate against Server 2003 DCs).****
>
>  ****
>
> OK, I know, Windows 95. But, these are used as controllers in some
> multi-million dollar machinery that was purchased long ago from a company
> that is now defunct. Replacing this equipment is simply not an option.
> Upgrading the OS is not an option. Installing the AD client extension for
> Windows 9x **might** be an option, but only as a last resort. The factory
> guys who maintain this equipment obviously do not like to stir the soup,
> because the apparently only human left on earth who can support this
> equipment charges 5 figures to just answer the phone.****
>
>  ****
>
> Here’s what I have in the Default Domain Controller Policy:****
>
> Microsoft network client: Digitally sign communications (always) *Disabled
> *****
>
> Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (always) *Disabled
> *****
>
> Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (if client agrees)
> *Enabled*****
>
> Network security: Do not store LAN Manager hash value on next password
> change *Disabled*****
>
> Network security: LAN Manager authentication level *Send LM & NTLM - use
> NTLMv2 session security if negotiated*****
>
> Allow cryptography algorithms compatible with Windows NT 4.0 *Enabled* ***
> *
>
>  ****
>
> Any suggestions?****
>
>  ****
>
> Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499****
>
> To err is human - to moo, bovine.****
>
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>
>
>

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