Yeah, still not impossible.

 

Have  "scope" selector that decides if the address restrictions (or
whichever parameter is in question) apply to the local page, the entire
site, etc... and then have the GUI tool default to making changes in a
sensible location that work by default.

 

If somebody wants to go add/change afterward via command line, so be it.

 

Heck, GPO settings can be in a zillion different objects linked in at
various places in the OU hierarchy, but there are tools to aggregate the
RSOP so you can see it, and then decide where you want to change it...

 

I feel that allowing CLI/scriptable editing of configuration data is a
valuable step forward. At the same time I feel that also removing
configuration tools (especially that allow "discovery") is a needless
step backwards.

 

That having been said, thanks for the pointer to the editor. :-)

 

-sc

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Using IP address restrictions in IIS 7

 

The main issue is:

a)      IIS6 - used one metabase for all sites/applications/folders etc

b)      IIS7 used a hierarchical set of config files - you can have a
config file in every directory, plus you can define arbitrary locations
(via <location></location>) in higher up files. So, the actual setting
needs to be the aggregated total of all these settings in an unknown
number of files. Not to say this can't be managed in the GUI - it's just
more difficult (e.g. where should the changes be committed to -
applicationHost.config via <location>? Create a new web.config in the
local directory?)

 

That said, there is an optional config editor add-in you can download
from ww.iis.net website

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 10:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Using IP address restrictions in IIS 7

 

I'd suggest the two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

Many a management GUI has just been shoving data to and from the
registry for years now. This need be no different if the configuration
container is an XML based config file instead.

 

-sc

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Using IP address restrictions in IIS 7

 

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 08:13, John Hornbuckle
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Good heavens. That's progress?

Yes, absolutely.


> The IIS team must've taken tips from the Exchange team on removing
previous
> GUI features and making users work more with config files and command
> prompts.

That's a good thing. GUIs are terribly limiting, and don't usually
allow automation, revision control, etc.

<snip>

Kurt

 

99% of people using IIS will not need or use several of the more
esoteric features either so getting them out of the GUI reduces
opertunity for people to break their installs in weird ways.

 

Steven Peck

http://www.blkmtn.org

 

 

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