Groundhog Day. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>wrote:
> This all sounds vaguely familiar… is it September of 2010?**** > > ** ** > > -sc**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:53 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares**** > > ** ** > > Actually, to be absolutely candid, it is a discussion about making bold > assertions without being able to to support them. Because one doesn't find > utility in a device doesn't mean that others can't find utility. To say > something is crippled because it meet some arbitrary requirement is silly. > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, James Hill <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Agreed. There just appears to be a lot more support for the tablet side > of the discussion. > > > > > > > > Horses for courses. > > > > > > > > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:29 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > > > > > I don’t think you’ll find many of the posts here are from proponents who > are suggesting such. > > > > > > > > The idea is that there are specific usage cases for which they are > extremely well suited. But that doesn’t obviate the need for a full-blown PC > or laptop, any more than a moped alleviates the need for an SUV. > > > > > > > > -sc > > > > > > > > From: James Hill [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:24 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > > > > > We are creating far more than we ever used to though. Social networking > is a big driver of this. Then add things like bit torrent and > non-symmetrical internet connections can become an issue. > > > > > > > > Whilst tablets have their place and are increasing in popularity I > couldn’t imagine working on one all day at %work%. My productivity would > greatly diminish as it would for 99% of my users. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 2:00 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > > > > > You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud > rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's > reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. > > > > YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many > folks that the consumption side is more relevant. > > > > Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Kurt Buff <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > > > > > Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > > > > > Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own > an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as > well. > > > > I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so > useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have > the ability to consume it. > > > > The converse isn't true. > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption > use cases. > > > > Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: James Hill <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 +0000 > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > > > > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected] > > > > > > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > > > > > And to me. The backspace key is my friend! > > > > > > > > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > > > > > > >>>The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. > > > > To you. > > > > ASB > > > > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker > > > > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not > > tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other > > digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, > > given the cost differential - once you take into account the > > peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional > > laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the > > supposed advantages. > > > > Kurt > > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> You're still mostly wooshing here. > >> > >> Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often > >> appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, > know > >> that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the "data > processing" > >> department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer > to > >> the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC > >> networks. > >> And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot > of > >> administrators are crunching these numbers right now... > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to > pasture > >>> > of > >>> > days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. > >>> > >>> Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server > >>> administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the > >>> minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. > >>> > >>> > The current generation > >>> > of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since > >>> > then. > >>> > >>> Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. > >>> > >>> > Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because > they > >>> > believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and > distributing > >>> > content! > >>> > >>> The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show > >>> is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger > >>> screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still > >>> need the servers on the back end. 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