Alrighty then.

If you want us all to be more precise, I'll restate:

Laws and regulations that inhibit the free exercise of individual's rights
to their own property and right of contract (and by individuals I don't mean
corporations), deny the ability of the participants in the marketplace
(i.e., those who are buying and selling) to gain a correct signal in regard
to supply and demand. If you can't sell what you have to me at a price and
under conditions agreed to by both of us, we will not be making a
transaction that satisfies our full mutual requirements. One of us, buyer or
seller, will be come out behind on the transaction.

Government regulations are by definition anti-competitive.

This is basic economics.

Kurt

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 19:53, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> The *market* makes decisions?
>
> Where is this mythical market?  The market is based on people, and if they
> can't be trusted to make good decisions without oversight when grouped
> together under the banner of government, they cannot be trusted to do so
> when grouped together under the banner of corporation or market.
>
> People, as we have oft observed on this very list, tend to make very bad
> decision -- more so in groups.
>
> *Theoretically* a free market system will operate better than many others
> under most circumstances, but in practice, a *little* bit of regulation is
> needed to make sure that the rules largely remain throughout the game the
> way they did at the beginning of the game.   Most regulation, it might
> easily be observed, has come about when the leaders in a given market got
> too free with said market, to the detriment of other players in that market.
>
> But hey, don't let reality stop you from fawning over what could be...
>
> Oh, and I fully expect that in addition to "iPhone thread!" we're now going
> to have to endure months of "DigiNotar thread!"
>
> * *
>
> *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> Technology for the SMB market…
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And in practice.
>>
>> Outside the textbook, laws and regulation which don't respect property and
>> contract rights robs the market of its ability to make decisions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 13:28, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> *>>A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results
>>> than anything else.*
>>>
>>> In theory.  Outside of the textbook, the abundant use of free market
>>> often requires regulatory intervention...
>>>
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:28, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>  There's no rule that says that has to happen.  It would appear
>>>> >>> that most people chose price over security, and so far that has
>>>> >>> generally meant that those who value security more are left
>>>> >>> without any really satisfying vendor.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If there's a market, or even if someone thinks there's a market, plus
>>>> a
>>>> >> way to make it profitable, then you can bet someone will start
>>>> something up.
>>>> >
>>>> >  You ignore startup costs, network effects, and other
>>>> barriers-to-entry.
>>>> >
>>>> >  Start, sure.  Succeed or see any real adoption?  Not so certain.
>>>> > The free market is not a panacea.
>>>>
>>>> A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results than
>>>> anything else.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
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