We're working hard to get an MPLS solution in that will keep latency down and up the bandwidth considerably. However, it's going to be quite costly, and we won't be able to make the justification on the price of DCs alone. Centralizing Exchange will be a chunk of that, though, and we may find other ways to justify it - probably including at least some centralization of file service.
Kurt On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 13:46, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, RPC doesn’t jive real well with latency so GP application is where > you're likely going to pay if you don’t have a DC in that site. Bandwidth is > more of an issue depending on saturation or number of PCs at the site logging > on concurrently. > > I'd look at what you're going to pay for the DC every 3-4 years and then see > how much the WAN upgrade will cost you. > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > [email protected] > > w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:05 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Q about AD sites > > Will this improvement obtain in high-latency and/or low-bandwidth sites? > > Our US and UK offices have sucky (that's a technical term, ya know) > bandwidth. The UK office has a consumer grade ADSL link (128 down, > IIRC) and the AU office has a 4mbit SDSL, but latency is horrid. > > Kurt > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 18:13, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well, I would use this opportunity to re-evaluate the need for DCs in the >> sites (really all of them) before you are unhappy about it. The WAN >> connectivity, performance, and costs of 2003 (or even 1999 ala Win2k) is >> nothing compared to today. The drivers we had 7 - 10 years ago for DC >> placement often aren't a factor anymore which means that we can save a lot >> of $$$ by retiring branch office DCs rather than refreshing them. >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [email protected] >> >> w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:25 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Q about AD sites >> >> The two magic words: No Money. I understand all too well. >> >> My sympathies. >> >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 13:58, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Two servers that are way past EOL (and running 2003) and no money to >>> replace them plus the desire to simplify replication. >>> >>> John W. Cook >>> System Administrator >>> Partnership For Strong Families >>> 5950 NW 1st Place >>> Gainesville, Fl 32607 >>> Office (352) 244-1610 >>> Cell (352) 215-6944 >>> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:57 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Q about AD sites >>> >>> So, why the reduction in DCs? >>> >>> Kurt >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 13:52, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Which is what I was considering but I wasn't sure if it would FUBAR the >>>> connectivity (knowing that the DC is behind a different router >>>> altogether). One of these sites is already up but GPO processing is spotty >>>> at best. >>>> >>>> John W. Cook >>>> System Administrator >>>> Partnership For Strong Families >>>> 5950 NW 1st Place >>>> Gainesville, Fl 32607 >>>> Office (352) 244-1610 >>>> Cell (352) 215-6944 >>>> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:40 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Q about AD sites >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 13:26, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> We’re about to do a restructuring of our sites and two of them will >>>>> not have a DC on site anymore. I know you can have multiple subnets >>>>> in a site that contains a DC but is it possible (or even necessary) >>>>> to link these standalone sites to a DC in another site? >>>> >>>> AIUI, if you don't link a subnet to a site to with a DC in it, >>>> logons (workstation and user) in that subnet will randomly connect >>>> to any site that responds, and there will exist the potential for >>>> some random weirdness that will frustrate folks. >>>> >>>> If I were in your shoes, I'd choose a site with a DC that has a >>>> relatively high capacity link between it and the orphan subnet, and >>>> make the orphan subnet a part of the that site. >>>> >>>> But, someone with more experience will probably chime in with better >>>> advice. >>>> >>>> Kurt >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> >>>> CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or >>>> attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity >>>> to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information >>>> (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. 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