There's no obligation for a WAN to use dedicated circuits...    50% of the
WANs of organizations that I've been associated with have used VPNs for
connectivity.

"Cloud" is definitely a very ambiguous term, and heavily co-opted by
marketing, but I like the NIST definition, a summary of which can be found
below:

Cloud computing is a model for enabling ubiquitous, convenient, on-demand
> network access to a shared pool of configurable computing resources (e.g.,
> networks, servers, storage, applications, and services) that can be rapidly
> provisioned and released with minimal management effort or service provider
> interaction. This cloud  model  promotes availability and is composed of
> five essential characteristics, three service models, and four deployment
> models.


http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/800-145/Draft-SP-800-145_cloud-definition.pdf
(Section 2)


People are referring to everything from basic web serving to hosted
application providing and standard virtualization as "cloud", which I
disagree with.


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On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> I'm not talking private WAN, I'm talking VPN.  Using the public Internet
> to carry
> >> a secure tunnel for a private payload.
> >
> > That's basically private WAN...
>
>   We're splitting hairs now, but hey, this is the Internet, that's
> what we do.  :-)
>
>  To my thinking, a "private WAN" is a "private (wide area) network",
> while a "VPN" is a "virtual private network".  The one uses dedicated
> circuits, the other does not; hence "virtual".  :)
>
>  Going back to the original question of "cloud or not?": We have two
> scenarios:
>
> (1) You're running an application on one of your systems which
> communicates with an undefined number of servers hosted by a
> third-party off-site.  Communication is carried over the public
> Internet.  Communication is secured by having your system encrypt the
> traffic into a secure tunnel using SSL.
>
> (2) You're running an application on one of your systems which
> communicates with an undefined number of servers hosted by a
> third-party off-site.  Communication is carried over the public
> Internet.  Communication is secured by using a separate appliance
> which encrypts the traffic into a secure tunnel using SSL.
>
>  As I understand it, you're saying the first is "cloud", but the
> second is not?  :)
>
> -- Ben
>
>

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