Interesting......

 

We have some home-grown apps that require security changes be made to
the DCOM objects in order for "normal" users to access them.

 

Similar?

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

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Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com <http://www.fiserv.com/> 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability continues

 

Revisiting this one today, check this out.

 

Log into RDS as standard user, try to launch this app and get "Run-time
error '70': Permission denied" (same error I have been battling).

Log that user off, make said user local admin, repeat the sequence fully
expecting the error to go away. Nope, same error

Log in as myself, log into app as the standard user, application now
works (as has been the case)

Log off, log in as standard user, launch app as standard user,
application now works

 

Looking up the error, it appears to be a DCOM thing, but running the
DCOM config tool doesn't help me as nothing jumps out at me to change...

 

<scratching head>

 

Dave

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability

 

Looking at this error further, it tells me just *opening* this key
(operation is RegOpenKeyExA) is a problem for a standard user.

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WinSock2\Parameters

"Fails as standard user and succeeded with full admin permissions"

 

With this app  - it's on RDS - if I log in as local admin and launch it,
it runs fine. If a standard users tried to launch it any time after I
have fired it up (and even if I have opened then closed it), it works
too, so it's as if there's some dependent service that fires up when
initially launched.

 

Bizarro info #2, rebooting the server after making the app work by me
logging in...the app still works for a standard user even if I don't log
in after the reboot, yet after some undetermined amount of time (days)
it "breaks" again. This sucks because I can't break the app on demand.
When it breaks what the users sees is they launch the app and they get
"Error 20 - access is denied" after trying to login to it (credentials
are specific to the app, which come to think of it talks to a DB on a
different machine).

 

This app has a dependency on Mozilla, but the users have access to the
relevant Mozilla folders.

 

Any guesses?

 

Dave

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability

 

Ok cool, thanks!

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability

 

Shouldn't be any reason you can't build and install a shim there. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

 

c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability

 

Whoa I omitted that this is for a 2008 R2 RDS application server, does
that change things?

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability

 

No, the second one you just need to build the shim with the AppCompat
toolkit. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

 

c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: App compatability

 

Standard users already have read access to that key.

 

Registry virtualization is automatically on in Windows 7 with UAC
enabled.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: App compatability

 

Using LUA Biglight which helps show what apps need permissions to run as
a standard user and not admin, it points to the following key:

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WinSock2\Parameters

 

Solutions include "registry virtualization, the VirtualRegistry shim, as
a last resort, loosen permissions". The first two involve the developer
doing something right?

 

How much of a security hole is it  if I allow read access by Domain
Users?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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