I have done a few P2V for machines that really could not be rebuilt did not like it either but last I heard they were still available to be run if needed. The hardware was just too old and too far out of date to keep the machines any other way. The original software developer quit the company that sold us the software and no one else knew how to fix the install issues. They always had to get on the phone unless the user was a DA and gave the machine and all users God status.
Jon On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** P2V is pretty much the same, I avoid it wherever possible. I've seen > far too many P2V'ed citrix servers. > > Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any > moment > ------------------------------ > *From: * Jon Harris <[email protected]> > *Date: *Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:18:54 -0400 > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" < > [email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? > > The one and only time I tired to upgrade a server was 2003 to 2008 and > there were so many quirks in the upgraded machine I just rebuilt the > machine. It was a VM if that matters. > > Jon > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Hutchings > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> We're already on Datacenter so licensing isn't an issue. >> >> Based on past experience I'm with you on it, but it's always worth a >> sanity check as if enough people tell me I'm living in the past and it's a >> non-issue these days, I'll listen. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Jonathan Link [[email protected]] >> *Sent:* 04 October 2011 8:07 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences? >> >> Since it's ridiculously easy to stand up a server I see no reason to do >> an inplace upgrade ever[1]. >> >> Assuming your licensing is in shape, stand up a new VM, get it ready, >> transition services, and then decommission the old VM. >> >> [1] Licensing is the issue in this matter, if you're out of licenses >> standing up a VM may not be possible. Another point in favor of Datacenter >> Edition. >> 2011/10/4 Paul Hutchings <[email protected]> >> >>> I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years now as typically >>> with physical boxes the box gets replaced after a three year period so the >>> OS is rebuilt/refreshed. >>> >>> Virtualisation has changed that somewhat as we now have VM's with a >>> potentially infinite "physical" life, and as a result I have quite a few >>> that are still running Windows 2003. >>> >>> I may rebuild them all with 2008 R2 which also solves the fact that >>> right now they're 32bit, but what are peoples experiences of upgrading >>> Windows in-place? >>> >>> As I said I've not had to do so for years now so I'm out of touch with >>> how good/bad of an experience it is these days? 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