Reactive AV is being phased out of our XenApp systems next week. We are going 
to maintain a "sleeping" AV component and do a deep scan once a week. Realtime 
monitoring is being turned off and we will rely entirely on the application 
management suite. We are not doing this blithely - currently app management 
stops about thirty or forty pieces of malware executing per week, and our AV 
catches precisely zero. In this environment, AV is just a waste of resources.

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moment

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Eckelberry <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:55:58 
To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
<[email protected]>Subject: RE: AV and malware protection?

Hmmm....  Take a look at the Wildlist, which is the list of currently verified 
viruses.  There's still a lot of nasty stuff out there.

http://www.wildlist.org/WildList/201108.txt

We see plenty of viruses out there, and relying on a product like Malwarebytes 
as your only line of defense is a serious mistake, IMHO.  It's an excellent 
product (remember we partner with them and are very close to them, so this is 
not a slight in the least on their technology) but you really, really need an 
AV product as a complement.

Alex


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issue
Subject: Re: AV and malware protection?

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Alex Eckelberry <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> It's worth noting that MalwareBytes is not an antivirus product.
> It is, however, an excellent protecter/cleaner against modern Trojans
> and rogue antivirus products.

  And the difference between these two things is...?

  Viruses are largely obsolete anyway.  Between ubiquitous network connectivity 
and autorun, nobody needs to bother.  Today's injection vectors are exploitable 
vulnerabilities in networked software and social engineering.  An attacker 
crafting malware to piggy-back on benign executables exchanged via sneakernet 
is like worrying about how to attach a team of horses to your car.

-- Ben

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