Excellent points, Marc While I'm still in wait-n-see mode with WP7[1], I am reasonably confident that Microsoft will continue to forge ahead because they recognize the importance of mobile to their overall, long-term success. The consumerization of IT is not a fad, despite how annoying that concept may be to some of us...
* * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * [1] Hey, when did this stop being WordPerfect 7? :) On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Marc Maiffret <[email protected]> wrote: > I couldn't agree more. I love the other posters comments (sorry memory > isn't working) about WP7 looking to be a good blend of the good of Android > and iPhone for the two different reasons stated previously. You are right > about iOS that it definitely just performs better than Android. I think WP7 > is on par from a general "does it just work well" but way a head from a > UI/experience perspective. The Nokia releases should be in November, so not > to long now. > > I had a Samsung Focus WP7 device and absolutely loved it but went back to > my Android device as the lack of multi-tasking and commonly used > applications was something I could not live without. Now that Mango is > basically out I am just waiting for Nokia and others to launch their Mango > based phones and I have a feeling I will be switching back. Both because I > really do with WP7 is the best of both worlds as it relates to Android and > iPhone and also because as someone whom stills like to write code (as a > hobby, smarter guys at eEye write the code these days!) there is absolutely > no comparison to the joy of developing in C# in Visual Studio vs. something > like Objective C in X Code or Android Eclipse plugins etc... > > While talking about this space in none security terms (although I think WP7 > will stand strong on security, it has a solid foundation in WinCE) I know MS > has made many mistakes in the mobile market but at the end of the day 3 > things matter: > 1. Do they have a good product? Yes, WP7 is absolutely solid (especially > now with Mango) and just a completely different UI experience that is > absolutely stunning when leveraged by the right applications > 2. Do they have a channel and manufacturing partners to leverage to get the > product to market? Yes, Microsoft absolutely crushes in this area and has a > lot of leverage not to mention cash to throw at companies like Nokia to go > all in on WP7. > 3. Do they have a large enough developer community? Yes, this is another > area that Microsoft is king. And in fact they are doing a lot of things to > make transitioning their legion of C# Windows OS developers over to WP7 in > an easy way. I won't even get into Windows 8 and all the dynamics that > brings to their WP7 market, but it is not anything to laugh at. > > 4. Wild Card - I think Microsoft is in the market for a long haul. The > reality is that they CANNOT lose the mobile space as the game has changed to > not just be consumers driving business choices anymore but more so consumer > mobile devices in the future driving businesses. This is already happening > even now with the latest OSX and Windows 8 releases where they are creating > AppStores and all of the other things learned from the mobile world. The > reality is that YOUR users want their desktop computing experience to be a > lot more like what they get on their iPad and indeed it will be increasingly > more difficult in the future to be a successful desktop OS manufacture if > you are not a strong player in the mobile space. > > Alright, too much coffee and I need to get to sleep for tomorrows eEye > vulnerability expert form which if you have not checked out is me and the > research guys basically nerding out about the latest MS patches, whats > happening in security and also going to discuss some recent Android (ha!) > vulnerabilities that illustrate how manufactures are really screwing things > up for Google. http://www.eeye.com/vef > > -Marc > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Liu [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:41 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? > > Marc, > I think you hit the nail right on the head. Apple charges expensively for > the design but the innards are the same as other cheaply made (or wose) > knock-off & substandard phones. But there _is_ somethingt o be said for the > iOS subsystem as it was designed/written not only for usability but > efficient use of memory/processing. On the ipad (gen 1 even) I've never seen > a lag as I have on the Android counterpart (Acer A500 is what I have to > compare to). > > I am excited about WinMo phones just not sure if I could wait another year > :) Am currently looking @ all the HTC models and wanting to see if we can > get work to foot the bill until the next hardware release from MS/Nokia > camp. > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Marc Maiffret <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would wait until the phones from Nokia come out. They should have > some pretty solid unibody designs that give iPhone a run for its money. > Regardless of OS the iPhone still is the best designed phone but like their > laptops (which I run windows on) you get what you pay for with Apple > hardware. > > Wait until the end of the year (November even) and Nokia and others > should have some other new phones out for WP7 that will rock. HTC has a > couple of new ones, but I think Nokia will out do them hardware wise... > > > -Marc > > Signed, > Marc Maiffret > Founder/CTO > eEye Digital Security > WEB: http://www.eEye.com > BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com > TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Liu [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:13 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or > Vulnerabilities? > > > John et others > > which model of WinMo are you using & in your opnion best Win7 Phone > to get? > > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:52 AM, John Hornbuckle < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Wait for what, though? It was a solid platform out of the > gate (I've had a WP7 phone for nearly a year). With the Mango update that > just came out, some rough edges were polished and the platform really > shines. > > > > > There's nothing I want to be able to do with my WP7 phone > that I can't do-although obviously everyone has differing needs. > > > > > WP7 gives choice (like Android) without fragmentation (like > iPhone). It's the best of both worlds. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:46 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or > Vulnerabilities? > > > > > > Windows Phone is still wait and see. > -- > Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. > > John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. > > > > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP > MIS Department > Taylor County School District > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or > Vulnerabilities? > > So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? > > Bill > > > > Marc Maiffret wrote: > > I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post > as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. > > > > > > http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security > > > > If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung > Android using > > > co-workers. :-) > > > > -Marc > > > > Signed, > > Marc Maiffret > > Founder/CTO > > eEye Digital Security > > WEB: http://www.eEye.com > > > BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com > > TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
