Uhhh...

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Crawford, Scott <[email protected]>wrote:

> Many thanks. They match almost exactly :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> Thanks. I'll let ya know.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> //
> // File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
> //
>                MD5                             SHA-1
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> afad4c4e3140cc70d58b778e11dbbb01 047ec0ce7458b837c36160960cb23b7bd9daca93
> en_windows_server_developer_preview_x64_dvd_735221.iso
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:40 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> I've, ahem, found a copy of the iso. Do you have an sha or md5 hash of the
> iso you have so I can verify that the version I've "found" isn't tainted? :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:55 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
>  My bad. You are right. MSDN only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:29 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> I'd love to be wrong on this, but I don't think technet subscribers can
> get it.  At least, I can't find it on technet and this link seems to
> indicate MSDN only.
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/xuzonne/archive/2011/09/20/windows-server-8-developer-build-preview-available-for-download.aspx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> Any technet or msdn subscriber can download the Win8 Server preview.
>
> The EULA seems to disagree in places with my MVP NDA, so I'm going to only
> speak in broad generalities. But I'm guessing that most MSDN or Technet
> subscribers could tell you anything you want to know. :-P
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:36 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
> I've read a bit about what Server 8 (And the new Hyper-V) is going to
> offer... and it sounds amazing. If people are able to share more info on
> it, I'm looking forward to this new setup.
>
> If it's under NDA, I understand and await patiently for the details to
> emerge as they should.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Crawford, Scott
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Fri, 04 Nov 2011
> 09:27:29 -0700
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini
> server arrived today...)
>
>
> > The server 8 stuff sounds like it will automate some of this and
> > largely obviate the need for clustering at all. Have you had a chance
> > to play with it at all?
> >
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:19 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
> > Mini server arrived today...)
> >
> > I have not yet clustered my Hyper-V hosts, but I do have an automatic
> > backup running from one to the other (and vice-versa).
> >
> > I do intend to reformat and reinstall with Win8 and do shared-nothing
> > clustering.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
> >
> > From: Andrew S. Baker
> > [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:12 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
> > Mini server arrived today...)
> >
> > As I learned painfully at home last year. :)
> >
> > Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed
> > to happen to everyone else (or so the story goes) ASB
> >
> > http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
> >
> > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though.  At
> > least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a host.
> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines
> > on a single HOST server.
> > That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power
> > is actually needed for most services?
> >
> > I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They
> > are doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard
> > Active Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes
> me wonder:
> > Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom?
> >
> > Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM,
> > fast HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155
> > Celeron) handle most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka,
> > could I be getting away with less expensive hardware to do the same
> duties?
> >
> > I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better
> bet.
> > Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option.
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Ens
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> > sunbelt-software.com>]
> > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > 11:26:11 -0700
> > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> >
> >
> > > I wouldn't.  Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU.
> > > Good
> > for
> > > some things, and not for others.  I think the NEO is pretty
> > > affordable
> > too.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
> > >
> > > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon.
> > > >
> > > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --Matt Ross
> > > > Ephrata School District
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Steve Ens
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> >
> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > >
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> > sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > 10:40:10 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough.  great for everyday use,
> > > > > but
> > > > wouldn't
> > > > > want to run Autocad on it.  For media playout it runs fine too.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link
> > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I left out similar specs...  Isnt that an Atom processor?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link
> > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> It's a nice form factor.  Not aware of anything that is
> > > > > >>> quite that
> > > > small
> > > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our
> > > > > >>>> district,
> > > and
> > > > > >>>> they run great."
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> > > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM
> > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a
> > > > > >>>> much
> > > > slicker
> > > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it,
> > > > > >>>> just
> > > > install
> > > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people
> > > > > >>>> in
> > our
> > > > > >>>> district, and they run great.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --Matt Ross
> > > > > >>>> Ephrata School District
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh
> > > > > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> >
> > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>>
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> > sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700
> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the
> > > > > >>>> > Apple VM
> > > > tech
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously?
> > Single
> > > > NIC,
> > > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode?
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't
> > > > > >>>> > mind
> > > > playing
> > > > > >>>> > around with at home.
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > > >>>> >
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major
> > > > > >>>> > > > issues
> > > with
> > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server
> > > > > >>>> > > room. It's
> > > > doing
> > > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff.
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop.
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross
> > > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> >
> > > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> > sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700
> > > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major
> > > > > >>>> > > > issues
> > > with
> > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > > >>>> > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > > >>>> > > >
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > > >
> >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little
> > thing.
> > > > It's
> > > > > >>>> > > > > quite
> > > > > >>>> > > the
> > > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware.
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my
> > > > > >>>> > > > > windows
> > > > stuff
> > > > > >>>> > > > > on
> > > > > >>>> > that.
> > > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen.
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it
> > > > > >>>> > > > > with
> > a
> > > > > >>>> second HD?
> > > > > >>>> > > If
> > > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is
> > > > > >>>> > > > > space
> > > in
> > > > > >>>> > > > > there for
> > > > > >>>> > > a
> > > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive.
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross
> > > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum
> > > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> > > > > >>>> > > > > g>]
> >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.
> > sunbelt-software.com>]
> > > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011
> > > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700
> > > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > when it
> > > > > reboots
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > it's
> > > > > >>>> > > like
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > shut
> > > > up".
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > hope
> > for
> > > > > this
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > thing
> > > > > >>>> > > > yet.
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:
> > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM
> >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini]
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac
> > > Mini?
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > --
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
> > rg<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player.
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Opening
> > the
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out
> > > > > >>>> > > of
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > should I
> > have
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the
> > > > > >>>> > > > cover
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says:
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations,
> > > > > >>>> > you
> > > > > >>>> > > > and
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other".
> > > > > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > Mac
> > > > Mini...
> > > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum
> >
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