I think the key for you Jeff is, "You Listen".
The old man upstairs will open the right doors for you, keep the faith and he will. ________________________________ From: Jeffrey Showen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT RE: MATH Indeed - all hope is not lost. My take may be askew as we are a military family for over 19 years, but my 11 year old son says Ma'am and Sir to every adult he meets - and a lot of kids! He has been raised as a military brat (his MOM is active duty - deployed 4x and ramping up for #5) and he tests for a 1st Degree Black Belt this weekend - he rocks! He is also a straight A student. We have had many struggles with moving to new assignments, low pay, etc., but he always rebounds and surprises us with his resilience. My point is that, even in the screwed up times of today, you can raise good kids if you stick to the basics and listen to them. He tells me he wants a PhD in Paleontology - I have no idea how to pay for it (military pay and my job resets every 3-years) but I am determined to find a way! Jeff On Jan 23, 2008 6:46 PM, David Lum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All hope is not lost. I have 3 boys, 15, 13 and 4. The older two do not talk back nor misbehave any more than young teens "back in my day" (early '80s'). Loving, considerate, to friends and strangers alike. My 4yr old will greet you for the first time, hand extended for a handshake and say "nice to meet you...". (I wish I could take credit, by I just happened to pick great moms). Having said that, they do something to get thrown in jail, in jail they will sit! I'd be more than happy to let a teacher use a paddle on them if they got out of hand. Hey, it worked on me... This could be a thread onto itself, but I feel compelled to speak when I get the impression most kids are raised like crap - the small vocal minority makes the quiet majority look bad. Sounds like other parts of society... I do understand some parents really aren't. Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 "When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" -----Original Message----- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MATH Very true Kim, and it doesn't help when you get parents that threaten legal action repeatedly, even though their kid is the worst offender in the school. And don't get me started on the lack of respect that kids are raised with these days. In my day, you said Yes Sir, No Sir, Yes Maam, No Maam. These days, you're lucky to get a Ya, or no... And forget the kids calling you Mr. or Mrs. Either... Joe Heaton -----Original Message----- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MATH Not to mention an environment where teachers have absolutely no control of their pupils because of fear of legal reprisals, among other things. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Heaton [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MATH Yep, the public school system is pretty sad, but when the government decides not to put any real money into the system, what can we really expect? "I've been doing so much with so little for so long, that they now expect me to do everything with nothing." That's how a lot of teachers feel these days... Joe Heaton -----Original Message----- From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MATH Wednesday Funny???? Last week I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The counter girl took my $2 and I was digging for my change when I pulled 8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her register. I sensed her discomfort and tried to tell her to just give me two quarters, but she hailed the manager for help. While he tried to explain the transaction to her, she stood there and cried. Why do I tell you this? Because of the evolution in teaching math since the 1950s: 1. Teaching Math In 1950s A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit ? 2. Teaching Math In 1960s A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100 His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit? 3. Teaching Math In 1970s A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. Did he make a profit? 4. Teaching Math In 1980s A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20. 5. Teaching Math In 1990s A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok. ) 6. Teaching Math In 2007 Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de la producciones es $80. 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