Backup: Having the necessary means to recover a functioning server system in 
the event any or all components of this system experience a fatal error 
(flooding counts!). So if you have a server connected to an iSCSI SAN you need 
to have the ability to stand the system back up if the server, HBA, iSCSI disk 
array, etc go kaput. (technically this would mean having a separate network 
switch as well, but we're talking software).

Sounds like the auto-snapshot manager doesn't meet this criteria here, unless 
the destination is on a different physical device and the "snapshots" aren't 
like VM snapshots which can't be used to recover a DOA VM on their own as you 
need the "original" VMDK/VHD in addition to the snapshots [1]

To me a true backup cannot exist in the same physical device as the operating 
device. While I do have an external eSATA drive that is a target for backup 
software backing up of my server VM's, the first "true" backup exists on a NAS 
device that sits in a different room altogether.

Dave
[1] I used to think having multiple snapshots was an OK form of "in case I need 
to fall back to it for some reason" until I ran into a situation that to 
recover a server - SBS with Exchange and SQL as it turns out - I had to 
"reassemble" the multiple snapshots back together manually, and each logical 
disk has its own snapshot, and I had three snapshots and the server had three 
disks, so I had the joy of reassembling effectively nine snapshots back into 
the "main" disks. Did I mention they have to be reassembled in the correct 
sequence? Spent a lot of time with Microsoft and while I did man

Now, I use snapshots sparingly and delete them as soon as I can.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dell's Auto-Snapshot Manager (EqualLogic) vs. tradtional backup 
softwares

I didn't mean for that to sound like I was advocating no backups, I just meant 
that the term "backups" is an insufficient explanation of what disaster 
recovery and business continuity capabilities more and more businesses are 
after.

- Sean

On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Anders Blomgren <[email protected]> wrote:

> Agreed. But I think backups have a part to play in this new world. As 
> someone who's had the unfortunate combination of replicated logic 
> errors combined with primary san failure, the absence of backups 
> would've been a resume-generating event.
> 
> -Anders
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 31 dec 2011, at 02:13, Sean Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Ben is spot on. It's time to start letting go of the concept of backups and 
>> start embracing the concept of data protection. With technologies like 
>> snapshots, cloning, replication, de-duplication and compression becoming 
>> more prevalent in data protection solutions, you have a myriad of 
>> capabilities at your disposal. The important thing to remember (and I 
>> believe this is a universal truth in IT) is to not let the technologies 
>> determine your business requirements. Determine your business requirements 
>> and then identify which technologies allow you to meet those requirements.
>> 
>> - Sean
>> 


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