Blaine Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/25/2008 04:35:11 PM:

>  We all deal with people like 
> this and I've been lucky that most of them don't argue much.  Hopefully 
> this will be enough to show security needs to be looked at right now.

Good luck - I know what your up against and you will need it - 
unfortunately :(

This really slays me:

Blaine Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/25/2008 04:31:07 PM:

> He doesn't want to upset his employees by 
> implementing policy but I have made major progress in getting him to 
> understand why it needs to happen.  He isn't the main person I'm 
> fighting in all this though.

Is he their boss or buddy?  If they have a major data breach, who's going 
to be out more - him or his employee's?

Sigh... risk management - it's so much fun with people who are in denial. 
Speaking of, check out:

http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/07-08/jan19.html#4

Scroll down to the Mistakes Were Made  section and read/listen.  Good 
stuff...

Eric Eskam
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