There are some useful things in there that aren't available anywhere else like the group membership evaluator or snapshotting.
Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected] w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NTDSUTIL... On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm guessing this utility by design is clunky? I do get that it's > powerful, but man it reminds me of EDLIN. OTOH I'm getting the hang of > it, but not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing. NTDSUTIL is a low-level, raw access, powerful sort of tool. Generally you shouldn't be using it unless things are moderately badly broken already. In that kind of situation, you want as little "helpfulness" between you and the data as possible. You wouldn't be using it if things weren't outside the expectations of the higher level tools, so by definition you're in a situation where you're claiming to be smarter than the higher level tools. The following excerpt from Neal Stephenson's essay, "In the Beginning... Was the Command Line", explains the sort of tool that NTDSUTIL is. NTDSUTIL is like the Hole Hawg. ===== The Hole Hawg ===== The Hole Hawg is a drill made by the Milwaukee Tool Company. If you look in a typical hardware store you may find smaller Milwaukee drills but not the Hole Hawg, which is too powerful and too expensive for homeowners. The Hole Hawg does not have the pistol-like design of a cheap homeowner's drill. It is a cube of solid metal with a handle sticking out of one face and a chuck mounted in another. The cube contains a disconcertingly potent electric motor. You can hold the handle and operate the trigger with your index finger, but unless you are exceptionally strong you cannot control the weight of the Hole Hawg with one hand; it is a two-hander all the way. In order to fight off the counter-torque of the Hole Hawg you use a separate handle (provided), which you screw into one side of the iron cube or the other depending on whether you are using your left or right hand to operate the trigger. This handle is not a sleek, ergonomically designed item as it would be in a homeowner's drill. It is simply a foot-long chunk of regular galvanized pipe, threaded on one end, with a black rubber handle on the other. If you lose it, you just go to the local plumbing supply store and buy another chunk of pipe. During the Eighties I did some construction work. One day, another worker leaned a ladder against the outside of the building that we were putting up, climbed up to the second-story level, and used the Hole Hawg to drill a hole through the exterior wall. At some point, the drill bit caught in the wall. The Hole Hawg, following its one and only imperative, kept going. It spun the worker's body around like a rag doll, causing him to knock his own ladder down. Fortunately he kept his grip on the Hole Hawg, which remained lodged in the wall, and he simply dangled from it and shouted for help until someone came along and reinstated the ladder. I myself used a Hole Hawg to drill many holes through studs, which it did as a blender chops cabbage. I also used it to cut a few six-inch-diameter holes through an old lath-and-plaster ceiling. I chucked in a new hole saw, went up to the second story, reached down between the newly installed floor joists, and began to cut through the first-floor ceiling below. Where my homeowner's drill had labored and whined to spin the huge bit around, and had stalled at the slightest obstruction, the Hole Hawg rotated with the stupid consistency of a spinning planet. When the hole saw seized up, the Hole Hawg spun itself and me around, and crushed one of my hands between the steel pipe handle and a joist, producing a few lacerations, each surrounded by a wide corona of deeply bruised flesh. It also bent the hole saw itself, though not so badly that I couldn't use it. After a few such run-ins, when I got ready to use the Hole Hawg my heart actually began to pound with atavistic terror. But I never blamed the Hole Hawg; I blamed myself. The Hole Hawg is dangerous because it does exactly what you tell it to. It is not bound by the physical limitations that are inherent in a cheap drill, and neither is it limited by safety interlocks that might be built into a homeowner's product by a liability-conscious manufacturer. The danger lies not in the machine itself but in the user's failure to envision the full consequences of the instructions he gives to it. A smaller tool is dangerous too, but for a completely different reason: it tries to do what you tell it to, and fails in some way that is unpredictable and almost always undesirable. But the Hole Hawg is like the genie of the ancient fairy tales, who carries out his master's instructions literally and precisely and with unlimited power, often with disastrous, unforeseen consequences. ===== END EXCERPT ===== (Original essay "In the Beginning... Was the Command Line" copyright 1999 by Neal Stephenson; available online freely at <http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html>. Above text copied from "The Command Line in 2004", copyright 2004 by Garrett Birkel; available online freely at <http://garote.bdmonkeys.net/commandline/index.html>. 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