You, nitpick?

NO??

>  IIRC, the new shell was introduced with NT 4.0, or maybe some kind of
option pack to same.

That was an alpha/beta level "shell preview", and not released code. I
used it.. it was buggy in several aspects, although it got better over
time. I don't recall that it ever was _REELASED_ for NT4.0. You actually
could run it on 3.51.


> MMC existed in the NT 4.0 days, although it certainly saw more
adoption in NT 5.0

Actually yes... you could get it as an "Option Pack" for 4.0... IIRC it
actually grew out of the development effort for Win2K, and was "back
ported" prior to release. The first OS it actually shipped with was
Win2K, which as you mentioned is where it was really "the default"
method for many management tasks and widely used.


>  I thought CSC didn't show up until NT 5.1 (XP)?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742423.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offline_files#Offline_Files

-sc


-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Steven M. Caesare
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I thought 2K was sh!t. I've had everyone else's thoughts on this 
>> already though. But I still hate it. :-)
>
> Well now you can have mine weather you want them or not:

  Nitpicking:

> - Vastly improved GUI (bye bye ProgMan & FileMan)

  IIRC, the new shell was introduced with NT 4.0, or maybe some kind of
option pack to same.

> - MMC

  MMC existed in the NT 4.0 days, although it certainly saw more
adoption in NT 5.0.  Personally I've never thought MMC was all that
awesome.  Assembling a bunch of unrelated tools in a purpose-built
interface just for the  take of having that interface seems fairly
pointless to me.

> -Offline Files

  I thought CSC didn't show up until NT 5.1 (XP)?

> I'd argue Win2K may have been the single most significant release 
> since NT was born.

  I'd tend to agree.  NT 5.0 was the first release of Windows that could
really be taken seriously in the enterprise.  While NT 4.x and earlier
did mostly work for most things, they were sufficiently lacking that
most other OSes tended to laugh at it, and rightly so.
5.0 was the first time it could really go toe-to-toe with the big boys.
Active Directory/Group Policy were a big part of that, but the general
improvements in support from MSFT and third-parties was also a big one.
It was the first time MSFT really started pushing for broad adoption of
the NT platform, and EOL'ing DOS and classic Windows.

-- Ben

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