Polite is a relative term, too. I find unresearched, or at least poorly framed, questions incredibly rude, hence impolite.
I have two standards for posting to the list. If it's something that's easy, but I think the members know a fair bit about, I'll ask, but I'll so preface that I may not have done a lot of research, so I'm looking for some pointers. Complete information, as well as links to docs, or even hints at google searches are welcome. The other circumstance, is when I'm dealing with a problem. I'll begin laying out the problem in the email, and then I'll think about different ways of phrasing the question or problem. I'll also go through and make sure I dot my I's and cross my T's. 95% of the time during this process I solve my own problem. This works for me, and I recognize it may not work for anyone else The original poster's question provided no information about his environment, but if we assume it is NT, based on the list, it didn't even include some basic information we tend to need to provide good answers. Again, as I have said previously, I would expect an "external archive solution" to have already solved the problem of determining what needs to be archived. So, we are left with an ambiguous question from the OP. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins <[email protected]>wrote: > "Acceptable" is a relative term. Knowing Gary as well as I do I can > assure you it was acceptable to him. Knowing others here as well I can > safely say it's acceptable to them as well. > > Honestly Gary's response is pretty spot on, the function of a professional > list typically is for peers of an expected experience level, and part of > that expectation is to do some of your own work as this is not a place for > "could you please do my thinking for me?" > > The correlation to "Carpet Boy" is apropos as a good known reference point > for repeated offenses of this type of generally agreed upon unacceptable > behavior. > > That said, given my record here, I expect to be summarily ignored. > > - WJR > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 00:53, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Calling someone as “asshole” is acceptable, simply because they asked >> an incomplete question? Or asking if they are related to “carpet boy”?*** >> * >> >> ** ** >> >> That’s ad hominem, unnecessary and unprofessional. Whilst we might have >> disagreements, let’s keep the conversation civil, and talking about the >> topic and not the man/woman.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Cheers**** >> >> Ken**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Friday, 9 March 2012 11:56 AM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Windows File Archive**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On the otherhand, a bitch-slap can be a healthy and needed aspect of >> Apprenticeship. It makes people think - about thinking for themselves and >> to make greater considerations of the details involved with >> whatever their question may be - before they ask an incomplete question, or >> try to move forward with an incomplete thought again. >> >> >> This list, while very friendly, has been more tolerating than recently >> than in the past of such things. Not necessarily a bad thing, but also >> something notably annoying to many more experienced professionals. And >> there is the rub; this is a bitch-slap, not an act of unprofessional - >> because this is not a professional forum. This forum is highly social, and >> a bitch-slap is a social adjustment. >> >> -- >> Espi**** >> >> **** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> While I may not employ Gary's colorful vocabulary, I agree with his basic >> sentiment. >> I would think a solution would include such a capability. If you are >> rolling your own then I suggest testing as I have had false positives with >> robocopy. >> >> >> On Thursday, March 8, 2012, Cesare' A. Ramos <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Some of you on this list need to get out more or understand what the >> purpose of a professional exchange is, as it is my understanding these >> lists are for. At times we all need to bounce things off each other, as no >> one person has all the answers. >> > >> > >> > >> > In addition, questions are simple at times there is no need for high >> level of complexity to impress anyone. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks for the help Michael and Joseph, clearly you guys read the >> subject on the e-mail. >> > >> > >> > >> > CAR >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:40 PM >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: Windows File Archive >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: >> > >> > * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, >> > * or copying to, >> > * or what he's tried, >> > * or what he's considered. >> > >> > Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not >> interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I >> understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or >> something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... >> > >> > I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his >> question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your >> Technology Solutions Provider'. >> > >> > So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. >> > >> > Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy >> PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or >> Linux Email or something. >> > >> > Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I >> realize how dumb that sounds. >> > >> > FFS. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: "Joseph L. Casale" <[email protected]> >> > >> > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 +0000 >> >> > >> > To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> >> > >> > ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" < >> [email protected]> >> > >> > Subject: RE: Windows File Archive >> > >> > >> > >> > Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. >> > >> > You can exclude any files newer than your limit. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > From: Cesare' A. Ramos [[email protected]] >> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Windows File Archive >> > >> > Hellos all. >> > >> > >> > >> > Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that >> have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. >> > >> > >> > >> > Any thoughts? >> > >> > >> > >> > CAR >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
