So it's more of a reward?  :)

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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 17:47, Rankin, James R <[email protected]>wrote:

> I loved NT4. See previous threads for evidence of my Win2K hatred :-)
>
> ---Blackberried
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Webster <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:53:45
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> <[email protected]>Subject:
> RE: list delays
>
> For your punishment, you must go back to NT4 and NT4 roaming profiles for
> 30 days!
>
>
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Rankin, James R [[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> I must apologise for my sig causing so much bother.
>
> ---Blackberried
> ________________________________
> From: Jonathan Link <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:04:36 -0400
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining
> anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation.
>
> Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase.  Note, I was the
> first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature.  He
> voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the
> signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered
> to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on
> the community.  I know several who have interesting [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> addresses, but do put their real name, or
> what I think is their real name out there.  Ben Scott, for example is
> mailvortex.  For all I know mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally
> a responsible member of the community. (Sorry Ben!)
>
> I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't
> had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list.  It
> appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though.
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…
>
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> Nice. Very nice.
> ________________________________
> From: Don Ely <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> For those that don't recall...  Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that
> chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall...  Said
> tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more
> interesting...  Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things
> security" at Labor Ready.  Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain
> from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly.
>
> All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed.  Captain
> Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise
> his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior.  For
> some reason he thought he was untouchable...  Needless to say, Captain Tool
> of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to
> show remorse...  It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor
> Ready.  He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the
> internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy
> that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the
> house at the time...
>
> We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard
> from again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to
> reduce the attack surface...
>
> A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study
> the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort...
>  Well, not to me anyway...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> ?
> ________________________________
> From: Don Ely <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: list delays
>
> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list...
>  :D
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything
> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list
> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual
> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.
>
> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.
>
> Jon
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very
> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to
> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail,
> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I
> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to
> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and
> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that,
> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it.
>
> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers.
>
> Signature will soon be gone.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> JR
> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds
> or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just
> doesn't make any sense to me.  But....whatever.
>
> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times.
>  However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the
> readers of the list, I'll never do it.  The "masters" find enjoyment in
> berating and personally attacking readers of the list.  I wouldn't put it
> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call
> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in
> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.
>
> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that
> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not
> using my real name.
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature.  It's also funny, so I tend to
> give it a pass.  I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are
> pretty objectionable.  The list members have come down hard on people with
> huge graphics and whatnot in their signature.  Is Mr Rankin's long?  Yeah,
> but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either.
>
> Turning this on its head.  If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin
> trimming his signature,  why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to
> use your real name?  Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.
>
> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last
> name.
>
> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long
> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not
> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.
>
> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the
> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list
> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> 1 demerit for you sir!
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight
> sir.
>
> Jon
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided
> they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with
> references included!
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext
> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: list delays
> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28
>
> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email
> signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > wow.  4 hour delays on postings.  really, this should be fixed or ditch
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