Cool.. glad it's working for you.
I've had an atom-based machine. And when compared to another box that had practically the same disk specs, I could definitely feel the difference just for simple workstation tasks. Perhaps it could be mitigated some with fast disk, additional RAM, etc... but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable recommending atom based devices as VM platforms. Both my VM hosts are ProLiant dual CPU P4 HT-enabled Xeon's running at 2.8Ghz. Not the latest, but no slouches either. I'd have to say that if I'm bouncing back and forth between a DC, my IIS box, and say Exchange, I can see some CPU hit. I just swapped one of these boxes in to replace an older Dual-CPU P-III box with the exact same amount of RAM, and identical disk. The only real difference is CPU horsepower, and I can tell a difference. But as YMMV has held true for you, it's another option for folks to consider. Especially if heat/noise are larger factors than raw performance. -sc PS- As other folks have pointed out, Atom's aren't actually supported... are you running them anyway, or when you say "effectively has a dual-core Atom CPU" does that actually mean something else? From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Doing admin work takes up very little CPU... How much CPU is required to create a new user or issue a new cert or print a document? Loading Exchange Management Console, or doing a WSUS server cleanup seems to be limited by disk I/O. Using SSDs speeds this up significantly. Even installing Exchange 2010 was less than 2 minutes. On my second Proliant I have SCVMM and SCOM - even those just run along without consuming much CPU. Disk I/O is usually the bottleneck. Cheers Ken From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 7:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server > (I've been running a server at home since 2001) I'll see your 2001, and raise you a 1994. I do agree that generally you don't' need huge amounts of CPU over the long-haul average (I mean who really cares if your home mail server for 3 people takes 5 seconds to deliver an email instead of 2?), but when you do decide to do some admin work on a box, etc... I'm not sure a dual-proc Atom is going to be fun.... You must be a patient man. J One of the things that I have found with home usage is that even though CPU needs may be relatively low, I/O and storage needs may still need to be relatively significant. Pushing media files around the house, or moving .vmdk/.vhd files around on lower-end NICs or storage controllers sucks. -sc From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Respectfully disagree. I used to have servers like this, but they are loud and generate a lot of heat. Living in Singapore with 30+ C temperatures (90F) means cooling is an issue. VM for home environments generally don't use a lot of CPU in my experience (I've been running a server at home since 2001). I've got a HP Proliant Microserver which effectively has a dual-core Atom CPU running 2 x DCs, Exchange 2010, Windows Home Server, Forefront TMG 2010, PKI/Print and WSUS all on a single box. And the CPU is rarely above 10%. I used to have a dual quad-core Xeon dell server, and the CPU on that was rarely above 1% - it just generated a lot of heat and noise for no reason. Cheers Ken From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 1:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server I have a 2950 at home (just as an example) and have never suffered any need to modify the electrical circuit. There are ways of isolating the noise but any fan is going to generate noise. Irritates women - I'll have to keep that handy in case I need to get rid of one! John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Steven Peck [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Those things are loud. I have discovered my wife gets irrate with one of those things on in the house. As I live in a part of California where temperatures get to 115 degrees F the garage isn't an option. Also some of those 'real' servers end up requiring a 20 or 30 amp circuit as well. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: OR you can just buy a used Dell Poweredge 2950 for $400-$600 with a raid controller, multiple drives and CPU's and gobs of memory and be done with it. I can assure you it's on the VMWare HCL and most likely Microsoft's and Citrix's as well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-2x-Intel-R-Xeon-R-CPU-5120-1 -86-Dual-Core-6-x-300GB-/160776821444?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item256f0b 9ac4 John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 <tel:%28352%29%20244-1610> Cell (352) 215-6944 <tel:%28352%29%20215-6944> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: recommendations on home server Wow, 8 cores for a home/lab server? That's a little extravagant, isn't it? 4 cores is fine for a handful of VMs, and quad AMD Phenom's can be had for < $100 when on sale. Don't really need the graphics that's bundled into the FX CPUs, and AM3 motherboards are cheaper as well. Carl From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: recommendations on home server Strictly for home lab use: MB http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=1963472&CatId=7248 <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=1963472&CatId=7248> $84 Memory http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=1874822&CatId=4534 <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=1874822&CatId=4534> HD http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=7331904&CatId=4357 <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=7331904&CatId=4357> $99 CPU http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=1239958&CatId=7341 <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=1239958&CatId=7341> $189 Case http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp No=7328068&CatId=1509 <http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Ed pNo=7328068&CatId=1509> $69 Using these components you could get the following: 32G RAM 3TB in RAID 5 array across 4 spindles Total cost $954. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 [email protected] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com <http://www.guardianlife.com/> From: "Jimmy Tran" <[email protected]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" < [email protected]> Date: 04/02/2012 06:26 PM Subject: recommendations on home server ________________________________ I'm in need of a decent home server to run ESX-I to run SBS, W7 and some other test VM's. My budget is preferably around $500-$1k. Looking for lots of processing power but low powered (if possible), RAID on the drives, decent amount of ram. Don't know where to start....can someone recommend something? 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