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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Lora Cates <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Well I've inherited what I'll kindly refer to as a "mess."  I'm still in
> the information gathering phase myself as I haven't quite been here 12 days
> yet, and only found this list recently.  So I'll apologize in advance for
> my faux pas.
>
> Basically I was hired to consolidate a plethora of disparate AD
> domains/forests in several geographically dispersed hospital groups into a
> single forest.  I still haven't met with the networking folks, so I don't
> know what shape the WAN is in.  My predecessor went so far as to set up the
> CompanyX.com parent domain and it's empty save the defaults, there is
> also a child domain of US.companyX.com <http://us.companyx.com/> with
> what appears to be the users from corporate.  I've read several debates
> regarding an empty root.  Is there a consensus on yea vs. nay?
>
> Speaking of reading, and apologies for any offense, are you this Brian
> Desmond?  Active Directory: Designing, Deploying, and Running Active
> Directory, Fourth Edition
> -lc
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Brian Desmond <[email protected]>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:16 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
>
>   *Well the impact is that all uni group membership changes replicate to
> every GC. If you’ve got concerns around WAN utilization, availability,
> latency, etc., then this could be worth looking at. In quite a lot of
> scenarios, the WAN issues that existed circa Windows 2000 don’t exist
> anymore which makes this a less interesting discussion point. Without
> knowing about your customer’s environment and scale it’s hard to say.*
> * *
> *I would say that it’s highly unlikely that I would design a new
> multi-domain forest except for some pretty isolated and specific design
> requirements these days. *
> * *
>  *Thanks,*
> *Brian Desmond*
> *[email protected]*
> * *
> *w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132*
> * *
>  *From:* Lora Cates [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:05 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
>
>   I too am looking into this for a coming migration I've been asked to
> design for a customer.  What's the impact to GC's by making everything
> Universal Groups?  Especially in a multi domain, multi forest environment?
>
>  -lc
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Brian Desmond <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:02 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
>
>
>    *In a single domain forest (or even many multi-domain domain forests
> today), I would just do all uni groups. *
>  * *
>  *Thanks,*
>  *Brian Desmond*
>  *[email protected]*
>  * *
>  *w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132*
>  * *
>   *From:* David Lum [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Domain local vs. global vs. universal
>
>  Today I found a global group in my AD (created by an SE that wasn’t me),
> but for this function I needed to add a domain local group to it and for
> course, that’s not possible. Someplace I heard in AD pretty much every
> group you use should be domain local unless it’s used for Exchange in which
> case you use Universal.  All groups I create are domain local and it simply
> works, but I know that doesn’t mean it’s right.
>
>  Before sending a note to the SE team on this I wanted to get a consensus
> from you guys. Comments?
>  *David Lum*
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