Did I just sense a disturbance in the force?
 
-lc

>________________________________
> From: "Free, Bob" <[email protected]>
>To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 6:15 PM
>Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
> 
>
> 
>Fires up the jiffypop
> 
>lol
> 
>From:Lora Cates [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:41 PM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
> 
>So I take it you lost?  :)  What, dare I ask, was your position on said matter 
>in the arena?
> 
>-lc
>
>________________________________
> 
>From:William Robbins <[email protected]>
>To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:45 PM
>Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
>
>
>
>I'm not entering into the "empty root" arena again.  :)  I will answer the 
>last query.  He is that Brian Desmond...which is why I shan't enter that arena 
>again.
>
> - Will
> 
> 
>
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 15:08, Lora Cates <[email protected]> wrote:
>Well I've inherited what I'll kindly refer to as a "mess."  I'm still in the 
>information gathering phase myself as I haven't quite been here 12 days yet, 
>and only found this list recently.  So I'll apologize in advance for my faux 
>pas.
> 
>Basically I was hired to consolidate a plethora of disparate AD 
>domains/forests in several geographically dispersed hospital groups into a 
>single forest.  I still haven't met with the networking folks, so I don't know 
>what shape the WAN is in.  My predecessor went so far as to set up the 
>CompanyX.com parent domain and it's empty save the defaults, there is also a 
>child domain of US.companyX.com with what appears to be the users from 
>corporate.  I've read several debates regarding an empty root.  Is there a 
>consensus on yea vs. nay?
> 
>Speaking of reading, and apologies for any offense, are you this Brian 
>Desmond?  Active Directory: Designing, Deploying, and Running Active 
>Directory, Fourth Edition
>-lc
>
>________________________________
> 
>From:Brian Desmond <[email protected]>
>To:NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 
>Sent:Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:16 PM
>
>Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
> 
>Well the impact is that all uni group membership changes replicate to every 
>GC. If you’ve got concerns around WAN utilization, availability, latency, 
>etc., then this could be worth looking at. In quite a lot of scenarios, the 
>WAN issues that existed circa Windows 2000 don’t exist anymore which makes 
>this a less interesting discussion point. Without knowing about your 
>customer’s environment and scale it’s hard to say.
> 
>I would say that it’s highly unlikely that I would design a new multi-domain 
>forest except for some pretty isolated and specific design requirements these 
>days. 
> 
>Thanks,
>Brian Desmond
>[email protected]
> 
>w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132
> 
>From:Lora Cates [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:05 PM
>
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject:Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
> 
>I too am looking into this for a coming migration I've been asked to design 
>for a customer.  What's the impact to GC's by making everything Universal 
>Groups?  Especially in a multi domain, multi forest environment?
> 
>-lc
>
>________________________________
> 
>From:Brian Desmond <[email protected]>
>
>To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 
>Sent:Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:02 PM
>
>Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
> 
>In a single domain forest (or even many multi-domain domain forests today), I 
>would just do all uni groups. 
> 
>Thanks,
>Brian Desmond
>[email protected]
> 
>w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132
> 
>From:David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:28 AM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
> 
>Today I found a global group in my AD (created by an SE that wasn’t me), but 
>for this function I needed to add a domain local group to it and for course, 
>that’s not possible. Someplace I heard in AD pretty much every group you use 
>should be domain local unless it’s used for Exchange in which case you use 
>Universal.  All groups I create are domain local and it simply works, but I 
>know that doesn’t mean it’s right.
> 
>Before sending a note to the SE team on this I wanted to get a consensus from 
>you guys. Comments?
>David Lum
>Systems Engineer //NWEATM
>Office 503.548.5229//Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
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