System Center Virtual Machine Manager can manage both your VMWare and
Hyper-V hosts...

   - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh546770.aspx
   - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg610610.aspx


And there are backup solutions which are pointed at your HyperV host and
will backup all the guests, yes.

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Paul Hutchings
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  I didn't think you could point Veeam (or whatever HyperV aware backup
> app you're using) to a single entity like you can vCenter and have it
> backup every VM that's in your cluster?  If you can that's great to know as
> I always wondered how it coped with doing incremental backups of a VM when
> it's been moved between hosts if it addresses each host individually.
>
>  On the domain point, so can you have several Hyper-V hosts that aren't
> domain members but still manage them as a single entity/cluster?  Basically
> what's the Hyper-V equivalent of a vCenter server?
>
>  Like I said I haven't used it but I thought those were both things about
> it that didn't seem quite as "polished" as VMware?
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* 16 April 2012 4:55 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>
>  *>> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup
> Hyper-V boxes individually?
> *
> No, you don't have to back them up individually.   Lots of 3rd party
> options here.
>
>
> *>> No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a
> "fun" situation if you have to power everything off and on again.
> *
> Your Hyper-V server need not be a domain member.
>
>
> **
>
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> Technology for the SMB market…
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Paul Hutchings <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've only used VMware so I'm more than happy to be corrected here, but in
>> no particular order:
>>
>> Single ISO takes you from bare metal to working server.
>> No third party drivers needed for things like MPIO and NIC teaming.
>> Single management tool.
>> Single management server (vCenter) gives visibility to your entire VMware
>> infrastructure.
>> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V
>> boxes individually?
>> No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a "fun"
>> situation if you have to power everything off and on again.
>>
>> Outside of usability you then have:
>>
>> Pretty much any virtual appliance you care to name will come natively in
>> VMDK/OVF format
>> Tons of vCenter add-ins
>>
>> I'm very interested in Hyper-V with Windows Server 8 and for us the
>> timing falls nicely with our SAN and server refresh, but honestly the only
>> reason I can see for looking at moving would be license costs - VMware
>> works out expensive if you have more than a few hosts and want more than
>> the basics.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: John Hornbuckle [[email protected]]
>> Sent: 16 April 2012 3:39 PM
>>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>>
>> Is the consensus that VMware is easier to use than Hyper-V?
>>
>> I've only used the latter, so I can't judge.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>>
>> I'd assume ease of use and market leader.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>>
>> Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini
>> frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you
>> choosing VMware over Hyper-V?
>>
>>
>>
>> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>> MIS Department
>> Taylor County School District
>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Mazzaccaro
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012
>> 08:38:47 -0700
>> Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>>
>>
>> > Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade.
>> > I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the
>> solution:
>> >
>> > 3 hosts: ($21k each)
>> > HP DL380 G7 E5660
>> > Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored
>> > 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone
>> > Quad port gig adapter
>> >
>> > 2 Switches: ($1,800 each)
>> > HP 2910
>> >
>> > 1 SAN ($22,700)
>> > NetApp 2240
>> > 12 x 600GB
>> >
>> > VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200)
>> >
>> > 6 Windows licenses ($13,600):
>> > Server 2008 Datacenter
>> >
>> > Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000)
>> >
>> > $40k services
>> > Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008
>> > Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers
>> >
>> > Total: $185,000
>> >
>> > Sound good?
>>
>
>

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