You said that- I didn't...

Heh.

And I have a Scanmaster II, so can figure out much of what's going on,
even if I don't have the tools or knowledge to fix it.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:01, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
> Till my next scheduled maintence. I have 272000 miles on it. They call them 
> idiot lights for a reason. ;-D
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership for Strong Families
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions
>
> How long do you ignore the check engine light on your dash? :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:28, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well if it ain't broke don't fix it! ;-)
>> John W. Cook
>> Systems Administrator
>> Partnership for Strong Families
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:54 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
>> Subject: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions
>>
>> Not much...
>>
>> I'm looking at logs and such, and coming up with no answers.
>>
>> It works, in spite of the DCA utility saying it's broken, which is
>> really annoying.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:00, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hey Kurt, whatever happened with your UAG issue?
>>> John W. Cook
>>> Systems Administrator
>>> Partnership for Strong Families
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 07:01 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions
>>>
>>> If we investigate that option further, I'll let folks know what I can.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 15:40, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> The IronMountain DPM stuff was pricey when I talked to them three years 
>>>> ago. Would be curious to hear if it's come down at all.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Brian Desmond
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:01 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions
>>>>
>>>> I understand that there's a paradumb shift [sic], and that we'll have some 
>>>> re-thinking to do. We had TSM in-house, and it's a lot closer to DPM than 
>>>> it is to Ultrabac.
>>>>
>>>> So, generally speaking, how does one achieve monthly/quarterly/yearly 
>>>> offsite backups using DPM? Is there a method to synthesize a point-in-time 
>>>> archive for archival and/or DR/BC purposes?
>>>>
>>>> Depending on price, we might also look at sending data over the wire to 
>>>> someone like Iron Mountain, rather than using tapes, though that could be 
>>>> problematic in a true DR/BC incident.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 13:03, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> That's not the way it works. :-P
>>>>>
>>>>> DPM originally makes a bit-for-bit copy of the "thing" to be backed up. 
>>>>> After that, only changed blocks are backed up. That's on disk. Generally, 
>>>>> I see 50-60 generations of files being kept by clients.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can do a tape dump of the full image but that's not really the way 
>>>>> DPM is designed to work. It takes a slightly different perspective than 
>>>>> traditional backup products.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:08 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions
>>>>>
>>>>> To further this conversation - what multiple of disk space does DPM have 
>>>>> available vs. the disk consumed in production, and what kind of history 
>>>>> do you keep?
>>>>>
>>>>> We're contemplating moving from Ultrabac and a tape robot to DPM, and are 
>>>>> currently doing a standard Grandparent/Parent/Child tape rotation with a 
>>>>> 5 year retention for the archive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:26, Bob Fronk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I have been using DPM for about two years now.  No complaints.  I do
>>>>>> not use removable media, so I cannot comment on those posts.  (I use
>>>>>> a secondary DPM server at another geographic site to assure offsite
>>>>>> backup of the primary DPM server)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have specific questions, you know a couple ways to contact me
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: James Kerr [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:33 PM
>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>> Subject: MS DPM Opinions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heh, any of you guys have any opinions good or bad about DPM? Any
>>>>>> gotchas I should know about, etc? I'm ordering a server today to be
>>>>>> the backup repository for the VMs and physical machines that DPM will be 
>>>>>> backing up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
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