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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's not all doom-and-gloom.
>
> Someone still needs to *get* the hashes somehow. So they need the ability
> to dump something from your authentication stores (AD? Proprietary
> database? LDAP store), which may or may not be in NTLM. If they are able to
> do that, then you already have significant problems.
>
> Or, they need to capture them across the wire: but if you application uses
> TLS/SSL, or IPSec, or some other proprietary encryption mechanism for
> exchanging credentials, or Kerberos, or... then again, you have a degree of
> protection.
>
> Breaking into a well-designed network isn't necessarily hard. But it isn't
> as easy as throwing lots of CPU cycles at it either.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 8:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Passphrases vs. password
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Jeff Steward <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> http://www.lockdown.co.uk/?pg=combi#Classes
> >> See the note on the bottom of the page if you want your mind blown.
> >
> >  And note that the page is dated July 2009.  If we blindly assume for
> > the sake of discussion that computing power doubles every 18 months,
> > we can multiply every speed given by roughly five.
> >
> >  I also wonder if the latest crop of GPU/math coprocessor hardware
> > could be adapted to this purpose.
>
> Buy a few cycles from Amazon - it's probably cheaper.
>
> But yes, I believe that this has been done.
>
> Kurt
>
>
>

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