It's not based on the Windows Phone with is WinCE kernel, Silverlight /
XNA.

It's based on Windows 8.  Now the full version (Windows Pro) will have the
full medley of apps as long as they are compatible with WIndows 8.  I know
my manager got Cisco AnyConnect working with the Preview Release.
Regarding the consumer tablet based on Windows RT, that will have the
limitations covered elsewhere..

It's not so much that Microsoft assumes that everyone should 'do it their
way' as they build their tools and products they control and offer it up as
a solution, and the others have to invest their own money in the products
they sell to make it work and produce upgrades to the products they make a
profit on, which is fair.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Dan Bartley
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Just a .02 comment. I like the sound of this new device. It does look
> potentially ?cool?. ****
>
> ** **
>
> However, based on Windows Phone, just how Enterprise friendly will it
> really be. Will they remove VPN like they did in Windows Phone? Will they
> assume everybody in the Enterprise is running Win2k8 R2 using various
> recent SharePoint and DirectAccess technologies like they do? One of MS
> weaknesses all the way back to Win95 was their inability to really
> understand how the rest of the world is operating. They tend to assume that
> because they do it a particular way, everybody must be doing it that way-or
> must learn to do it their way.****
>
> ** **
>
> I had a Windows Phone and I loved it, but I had to swap it for an Android
> because all I could do with the Enterprise was email through Activesync.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dan Bartley
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:31
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Microsoft Surface****
>
> ** **
>
> Cool=IPad?
> John W. Cook
> Network Operations Manager
> Partnership for Strong Families
>
>  ****
>
> *From*: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent*: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:27 AM
> *To*: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
> *Subject*: Re: Microsoft Surface
>  ****
>
> I think that $600 is the max that a non-cool tablet can command at the
> consumer level.  I suspect that Microsoft is looking to achieve sufficient
> cool factor to get past this, or to appeal directly to the corporate
> customer. ****
>
> ** **
>
> They've been in the hardware subsidizing business for a number of years on
> the console side, so perhaps they have a decent idea of when to subsidize
> and when not to.  For one thing, they will not have the level of lock-in on
> the tablet side that they have with consoles, which allows them to recoup
> from the subsidized losses.****
>
> ** **
>
> I like my Android running HP TouchPad because I bought it at a different
> price point.
> ****
>
> *ASB*****
>
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*****
>
> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market?*****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> wrote:
> ****
>
> Just to add a couple points.
>
> Legacy chipsets run warm, so Intel will definitely run warm.  I have a
> Win8 tablet, the Acer Iconia Tab WP500, and it has a vent, but the tablet
> itself is designed well enough that it doesn't get too warm.  BTW: the Acer
> comes with a keyboard, too, and I love it.  It's replaced any other laptop.
>  However, I still carry around two tablets with me.  The Xoom and the Acer.
>  I carry both because there are apps on the Xoom I cannot live without.
>  The Windows market isn't there yet.
>
> Acer is $500.  Which leads to the price issue.  My guess is that Microsoft
> will attempt to compete with Apple on all fronts.  The Samsung tablet that
> Microsoft has been issuing to employees averages around $1500.  Tablets
> should never be more than $500 in my opinion.  There's a a price point that
> only Apple die-hards will pay, and Microsoft needs to do whatever possible
> to bring the tablet down to a reasonable, obtainable price.****
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:22 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Surface****
>
> Good show, Microsoft. It was an excellent product launch event and PR.
>
> Some details are still missing. Mostly prices.
>
> The truly innovative features:
>
> 1. A super-thin Windows RT version, which competes directly with the iPad.
> 2. A slightly thicker Intel Windows 8 Pro version. I suspect this will be
> one of the best selling "tablets" in the enterprise.
> 3. The new covers that are also keyboards/touchpads... inspired. How well
> they wear is a question.
> 4. The kickstand. Yes, it's something you wish it didn't have to have
> attached to the device... but have you ever tried to use a tablet on a
> table without having it propped up somehow? Personally, I approve.
>
> Questions still to be answered:
>
> 1. Is Microsoft going to be the only seller of Windows 8 RT tablets? Did
> they just leave HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc, out to dry?
> 2. What's the battery life? No mention of this always makes me worry.
> 3. Vents on the Intel version. If it needs vents, it must get warm.
> 4. Price, price, price. The world needs to know. Not be disappointed when
> you let us know that the Pro version is $1000[1].
>
> My workmate is very excited about the announcement. And if he knew what
> the price was, he would already be saving for it. Personally, if I wanted a
> laptop, i'll buy a laptop. If I want a tablet, I don't want to spend $500
> for something roughly the same size as a netbook. That why I bought my HP
> Touchpad on firesale... the price was right. After using the 10" touchpad
> for almost a year, I now know that I don't want something that big... so
> the 7" tablets look better to me. And Android (using Cyanogenmod on my TP)
> does everything I need a tablet to do.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> [1] Note: This is my guess on the price of the Intel Windows 8 Pro version
> of Surface.
>
> ----- Original Message -----****
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> Subject: Microsoft Surface
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>
> > Is here:  http://surface.com
> >
> > I had a chance to see the technology itself demoed back in 2010, and
> > it was most awesome.  And now, in mobile format.
> >
> >****
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