Don stores it all a lil farther south than his head Tom.

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Switch Purchase Question...

 

 

Not everybody has a BIGHEAD like you Don to store all that information.

 

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From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Switch Purchase Question...


GUI's are for the unskilled...

On Feb 1, 2008 6:50 AM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Dell in these discussions.  I've
used Dell switches in stacked and single deployments and have enjoyed
great success with all the managed products.  When I was running the IT
department for that law firm (from Hell), I had a Cisco core and Dell in
all my access-layer closets and all branch offices and it was a rock
solid setup.  My only beef with Dell is that the CLI is just different
enough from Cisco to piss you off.  Example, you can't just type 'sh
run' you have to type "show running-config".  However, the web mgmt
applet was easy-peasy to use.

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook



 -----Original Message-----
From: kenw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Switch Purchase Question...

I use HP nearly all the time now.

While Cisco gear is good, unless you're doing a fairly large
implementation, the time it can take to get them configured right can be
expensive.  I had a situation a while ago, due to Cisco's default
configuration for bridge discovery, that caused a lot of hassle.  An XP
box behind another switch had defaulted to bridge mode, the Cisco saw
it, panicked, and disconnected the port, causing a whole section of the
network to "go dark".  Took a few times to figure out what was
happening.  My complaint is that neither Cisco nor Microsoft had any
documented recognition of the issue, nor any recommendation on how to
deal with it, and the support wasn't much help.

A caution on the HPs, though: they've brought out some new, low-cost,
semi-managed switches that I've put where I can't do anything else.
They're still pretty green, don't cluster, and are generally
feature-poor.  There's an undocumented "feature" wherein if you use
ports 1 and 2 for a trunk, and there's a power cycle, they will reset to
factory defaults.  Also, I'm seeing a lot of compatibility issues with
low cost gigabit PC NICs, wherein they don't negotiate speed/duplex/etc.
properly, and users with gigabit cards start running at 100MB with truly
crappy performance.  They seem to be happy with Intel NICs, FWIW.  HP's
bringing new firmware out for them fairly often.

/kenw

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