I disagree.

Car manufacturers have been constantly finding ways to make our driving 
experience safer, and less stressful. Whilst it still requires some level of 
co-ordination, skill and concentration to drive a car, it is far safer and far 
easier to drive a car now than at any time in the past. And companies are 
working on ways to make it even more so.

Likewise the IT industry has to find better ways to keep things secure rather 
than relying on changing the entire human race's behaviour. Because the latter 
is a losing proposition - it always has been and always will be. Constant 
whinging by *IT Professionals* has done nothing to change that fact in the past 
40 years.

Passwords may have worked when users only had to remember 5. These days it's 
starting to break down. So, what do to? Microsoft tried CardSpace, and building 
password memory systems in Windows and IE. Wasn't entirely successful. Some 
companies are trying federated identity systems (e.g. "login with your Facebook 
account"). Maybe the government should just issue people with smart cards 
(whether or not they are tied to your actual identity - at least they would be 
relatively impossible to duplicate, with today's technology).

The constant whinging about programmers, users and everyone else, on this list, 
is so tiring. No one is discussing solutions. Telling the entire population of 
the developed world to "suck it up" is not a solution IMHO.

FWIW IT admins here seem to have no compunction re. posting the products they 
use, the configuration they have, the AV they have installed, their password 
complexity rules, their administration techniques, and the companies they work 
for and when they are out-of-the-office etc. It's rank hypocrisy.

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012 3:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT : Humor only an Admin can enjoy.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
> You work in IT admin - passwords are something you deal with every day.

And so do all who have more than one online account for most anything.

> Probably bank tellers have few(er) issues remembering multiple bank 
> account numbers, but I think that most people would struggle to 
> remember more than 5. Luckily most of us doesn't have 5 bank account 
> numbers we need to memorise.
>
> Tax accountants can probably remember
>
>> For these people, I will play the world's smallest violin.
>
> Why did you feel the need to make this type of comment?
> If creating many passwords is a problem that lay people have, then the 
> proliferation of requirements to create accounts and corresponding 
> passwords is something we should be aware of (and perhaps worried 
> about). Not something to dismiss as an unfounded whinge.

It is an unfounded whinge. The world is a complex and sometimes dangerous 
place, and the online world is more so. All of us, users included, need to suck 
it up, realize that what we do has consequences, and that practicing safe 
computing is like practicing safe driving or safely performing any other task - 
it requires concentration, planning and some intelligence. You can't do it on 
autopilot. There are tools for to help deal with that complexity - and as IT 
professionals we can certainly help folks by pointing out those tools, in this 
case things such as PasswordSafe, Keepass, LastPass, or other tools to manage 
the task. But the need remains to change passwords, and to keep them strong 
enough to foil the malicious, or at least limit the damage.

Kurt


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