I am betting you intentionally skip over the hidden tidbit in his question.

“If a user gets a message from the Java updater, should they accept it…”

What kind of user can install a Java update? ☺


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java vulnerability Q

I would semi-trust the java updaters, but honestly, I would be pushing java 7 
version 7 if you have a centralized platform for software updates. And if you 
don’t need java on your systems for functionality, remove it altogether.

Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java vulnerability Q

Thanks. If a user gets a message from the Java updater, should they accept it 
if it’s verified from Oracle, or is that potentially an exploit?

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java vulnerability Q

Most times it’s a keylogger or other malicious code downloaded from multiple 
sources that will hook processes inject into other processes (legit) and try to 
remain persistent.

If you can disable java invocation in the Internet Zone, which will stop the 
drive-by’s for the time being.

Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Kennedy, Jim 
[mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Java vulnerability Q

The exploit is used to drop code on the target. That is how most of the 
exploits that you hear about are used.  It isn’t that I use Java to get your 
password….I use Java to drop a keylogger on your box to get your password…for 
example.

So you are looking for what they dropped.


From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Java vulnerability Q

If a system has been compromised by the latest Java exploit – how would someone 
know? What would you look for?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764



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