Keep in mind that the "universal firewall bypass port" only works when
you can't inspect the connections. Some firewalls can do this inbound
and outbound, in which case, the "bypass port" canard no longer applies.

HTH,
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: L2TP vs. SSTP

Well, listen to the evangelism people from Microsoft (and others), it's
all about protecting the core services now.

The hard edge is going to become increasingly irrelevant for many orgs
(there's the need to federate, contractors, mobile devices, home
workers, outsourcers etc, etc, etc).

We already had the discussion about the universal firewall bypass port
:-)

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 6:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: L2TP vs. SSTP

I guess I missed the meeting ;-)  - whats the primary device now?

On Jan 31, 2008 10:21 AM, Eric E Eskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/31/2008 09:42:14 AM:
>
>
> > On Jan 31, 2008 8:51 AM, Eric E Eskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Firewalls haven't been a primary security device for a few
> > years now....
> >
> >   I guess I better take ours down then... ;-)
>
> :)  I didn't say they weren't useful, just said they were no longer a
> primary security device - esp. for outbound...


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