They stole that idea.

>From many years before:
http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/papers/a1-firewall/index.html

The whole site is worthwhile - especially:
http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/index.html

Kurt

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Matthew W. Ross
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> > What's your definition of "scissors security" ?
>
> http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf
>
> yuk yuk yuk!
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Yergeau
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thu, 11 Oct 2012
> 10:50:32 -0800
> Subject: RE: OT: Scour redirect virus?
>
>
>> > What's your definition of "scissors security" ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cutting the internet connection, or at least running a VM on each desktop
>> that's used for all internet access and reset to a baseline snapshot at the
>> end of each day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the list of products, I'll check them out.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:21 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>>
>>
>> What's your definition of "scissors security" ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Solutions like Bit9 Parity, CoreTrace Bouncer, Faronics Anti-Executable
>> <http://www.faronics.com/products/anti-executable/standard/> , and Savant
>> Protection are available today, and the cost per end-point is comparable to
>> traditional AV solutions.  There's also BitLocker from Microsoft.
>>
>>
>>
>> As with virtually all other technologies, increased implementations lead to
>> improvements in cost and refinements in the feature set.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ASB
>>
>>
>>  <http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>>
>>
>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market.
>>
>> http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075
>> <http://www.point2security.com/author.asp?section_id=2075&doc_id=248849>
>> &doc_id=248849
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tom Yergeau <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Unless we use "scissors security" how can we avoid things that even the
>> experts can't isolate the code for?  This article a while back brought it
>> all into focus for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231418/Elusive_TDL4_malware_variant_
>> infected_Fortune_500_companies_gov_t_agencies
>>
>>
>>
>> There are some promising products out there like Bromium, but that's for
>> large environments, very new, and probably very expensive.  Where does that
>> leave the rest of us?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:59 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: Scour redirect virus?
>>
>>
>>
>> The thing about malware is that you really have to avoid it in the first
>> place.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, seems like a Captain Obvious moment, but once the system is impacted,
>> a sophisticated piece of malware is going to do all in its power to stay out
>> of sight, including disabling common/popular AV products.
>>
>>
>>
>> I did see a lot of links about the Redirect Virus on AVG's community site:
>> http://forums.avg.com/us-en/avg-forums-search
>>
>>
>>
>> You may already have run into information such as
>> (http://www.pchell.com/support/scour_redirect.shtml), which indicates how
>> insiduous this malware can be.
>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that it's a rootkit makes it somewhat problematic to deal with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Host-based protection needs to move away from the ubiquitous AV toolset.
>>
>>
>>
>> ASB
>>
>>
>> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>>
>>
>> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Christopher Bodnar
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone else has had to deal with this one.
>>
>> Got hit with this on my home machine this week. I am by no means a security
>> expert, so that may have been part of my problem. But was sort of surprised
>> by the lack of resources/info available out there from the major players
>> (AVG, McAfee, Symantec, etc....). I use AVG and it had no idea the machine
>> was infected. and couldn't find any mention of it on their support site.
>> Tried both TDSSKiller from Kaspersky and  FixTDSS from Symantec. Neither of
>> which worked. Finally gave in and tried ComboFix, which really looked like
>> it was questionable, but resolved the problem for me.
>>
>> Luckily this was relatively harmless in the grand scheme of things. Just
>> very annoying.
>>
>>
>> Christopher Bodnar
>> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
>> Architecture and Engineering Services
>>
>>
>> Tel 610-807-6459
>> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
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