<Quote> [1] As a side rant: Why can't Windows allow an administrator to force a logoff of a locked account locally on a machine? This was possible in XP. Starting with Vista, the only way an administrator could locally logoff a locked machine was to force a power down. </Quote>
I believe you have to logon as an admin, and then use task manager: http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/133754-task-manager-users-log-off-loca l-user.html -----Original Message----- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You would be correct if we were talking laptops or tablets for individual users. But I'm talking about labs of computers for students. Every 50 minutes, a new set of users must come in and they expect to get to their files and settings. For this reason, the simple action of logging off needs to be simple. Microsoft has chosen, in their infinite wisdom, to make this process difficult. Maybe not difficult for you or I, but it's not obvious to the layperson. Here are some possible scenarios: 1) Users don't log off. This causes either A) the session to be locked, making it impossible to login[1] or B) let the next student see/screw with the last user's data. Oh, I guess I could C) allow multiple log in sessions, but this is not ideal. 2) Users share desktops. If you can't log off, just stay logged in! Everybody can use the same desktop and home folder then. (Again, not ideal.) It's not that I'm against Windows 8's DCIM interface. I'm not all that thrilled by it, but I see where they are going. I see the benefit on smaller, more mobile devices. (Which, oddly, Microsoft hasn't been focusing on. Where is the 7" RT Tablet?) I am hopeful that Microsoft can make a few changes that will make it much more friendly on both Touch and Desktop interfaces. But until they do, we won't be adopting it. [1] As a side rant: Why can't Windows allow an administrator to force a logoff of a locked account locally on a machine? This was possible in XP. Starting with Vista, the only way an administrator could locally logoff a locked machine was to force a power down. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 06:43:44 -0800 Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC > Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to > be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC > > > > "You no longer have to "pre-tell" Windows that you want to shut down and let > it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you > just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power > Settings)" > > > > How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use > the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems > weird. "What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device > off? That's CRAZY!". Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make. > > > > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC > > > > Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of > the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that > the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally > onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but > once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard > to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect > sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device > (whatever it might be). You no longer have to "pre-tell" Windows that you > want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now > hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever > you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments > where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses > it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking > back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. > > Tim > > > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC > > > > J I'm running all three - plus a desktop. > > > > > > From: Guyer, Don [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC > > > > Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our > environment. > > > > Laptop, Surface and a phone. > > > > Regards, > > > > Don Guyer > Catholic Health East - Information Technology > > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 > > email: [email protected] > > Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 > > For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the > helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. > > Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 > > > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC > > > > Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), > you practically run in desktop mode anyway. > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Window 8 on your PC > > > > Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it > as-is and learning new tricks? > > David Lum > Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM > Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > Confidentiality Notice: > This e-mail, including any attachments is the > property of Catholic Health East and is intended > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). > It may contain information that is privileged and > confidential. 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